Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 7:18 am  

Quick and supports well, though poor decision maker and weak defensively. As mentioned earlier a slightly better version of Dwyer.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:26 am  

Leeds fan here in peace.

Leeming is a good player and will have some great games, but he has his weaknesses.

He was more often than not taking the wrong option on important plays and isn't a 9 who distributes and works well with the half backs, largely this is the reason Rohan Smith preferred O'Conner (who is now a better hooker IMO!)

Leemings defence is pretty ropey for a nine, often pushed off in contact and can be a bit lazy in his defensive duties.

I think he's an OK signing for you guys but 4 years is way too long IMO and I would wager that e doesn't see out his contract just as he didn't for Hudds and Leeds, and he basically threw his toys out of the pram with us when it was obvious he didn't want to share the hooking duties and got dropped as captain.

From what Ive seen I think you've got a better player in O'Neil.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:22 am  

christopher wrote:

Leeds fan here in peace.

Leeming is a good player and will have some great games, but he has his weaknesses.

He was more often than not taking the wrong option on important plays and isn't a 9 who distributes and works well with the half backs, largely this is the reason Rohan Smith preferred O'Conner (who is now a better hooker IMO!)

Leemings defence is pretty ropey for a nine, often pushed off in contact and can be a bit lazy in his defensive duties.

I think he's an OK signing for you guys but 4 years is way too long IMO and I would wager that e doesn't see out his contract just as he didn't for Hudds and Leeds, and he basically threw his toys out of the pram with us when it was obvious he didn't want to share the hooking duties and got dropped as captain.

From what Ive seen I think you've got a better player in O'Neil.

I suppose the beauty is that we have O’Neill, so Leeming will need to perform. I think they’ll share the role and that’s a strong combo IMO.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:45 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I suppose the beauty is that we have O’Neill, so Leeming will need to perform. I think they’ll share the role and that’s a strong combo IMO.

It is - I just hope Brad O'Neill isn't inclined to look elsewhere. He's really progressed over the last few months and hopefully Wigan have reassured him that he's still a big part of the plan going forward. Definitely think its the right decision to move on from Powell but O'Neill and Leeming need to be looked at as equals with the best performer starting.

Notice Saints fans comparing him to their potential signing in Daryl Clark and most saying they have the better deal. Not sure on that one - there are pros and cons to both. Clark has definitely reached heights that Leeming hasn't got to yet. But then his recent form has been generally poor, he's 3-4 years older and his game mostly centred around his pace from.duy half (something that he won't have as much of at 31).

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:14 pm  

The more I’ve thought about this signing the more I’m leaning on the why have we signed him?
Working on the assumption that Cust is going and Powell is also off (Catalan/early retirement?) would still leave us with Leeming, O’Neil and Forber in the first team squad. How long can we keep Forber “happy” being third choice or even fourth choice if Powell actually stays? Maybe O’Neil has been poached by the nrl?
I quite liked Leeming when he played for Huddersfield but from what I’ve seen of him at Leeds he doesn’t seem to have progressed as I would have expected.
If there is only Cust departing from the hooking fraternity then for me this could be a poor use of the salary cap particularly as we have greater needs elsewhere in the squad.
Surely there other moves/announcements in respect of our hooking roster?
Interesting times.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:18 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

The more I’ve thought about this signing the more I’m leaning on the why have we signed him?
Working on the assumption that Cust is going and Powell is also off (Catalan/early retirement?) would still leave us with Leeming, O’Neil and Forber in the first team squad. How long can we keep Forber “happy” being third choice or even fourth choice if Powell actually stays? Maybe O’Neil has been poached by the nrl?
I quite liked Leeming when he played for Huddersfield but from what I’ve seen of him at Leeds he doesn’t seem to have progressed as I would have expected.
If there is only Cust departing from the hooking fraternity then for me this could be a poor use of the salary cap particularly as we have greater needs elsewhere in the squad.
Surely there other moves/announcements in respect of our hooking roster?
Interesting times.

I dont mind the signing at all but, on reflection, 4 years seems a bit excessive. I think a 2 + 1 in the clubs favour would be more reasonable but we dont know the ins and outs of whats going on recruitment-wise

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:23 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

I dont mind the signing at all but, on reflection, 4 years seems a bit excessive. I think a 2 + 1 in the clubs favour would be more reasonable but we dont know the ins and outs of whats going on recruitment-wise

Agree with you here. I think it’s the 4 years that has me scratching my head as much as the number of potential hookers in the squad,
I’m sure that other moves/announcements will be forthcoming.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:44 pm  

There has to be exits you’d imagine. Cust will be one and I wonder if Powell has got fixed up elsewhere? Catalans, Leigh or Salford would be the clubs I wouldn’t be surprised to see make a move. Leigh makes the most sense to me, to work alongside Ipape and add depth because they are short of numbers.

I’m not too worried about what Leeming means for Forber just yet. It’s still very early days in his career, with no guarantees that he will be good enough for first team rugby. Brad O’Neill has played plenty of loose forward in academy rugby and it feels like Smithies might try his hand in the NRL at some point and there are always surprise exits/injuries. I am more worried that it holds Brad O’Neill back. I hope we’re strong enough to pick on form.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:17 pm  

Good signings there. Whether they will all be successful time will tell. Just shows where the club think our problem area is when they sign a complete front row and announce them all within 24 hours.
As for departures, Mago and Singleton obviously but Cust now seems vulnerable and Powell appears to be on the outer. Cust back to Auis and Powell to Hudds. They miss Levi and Watson may try something different with Powell.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 7:09 pm  

Huddersfield is a good shout. Watson just loves signings, so it could be anyone but the fact they look short at hooker, makes it a possibility.