Re: Sam/Union : Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:10 pm  

pk wrote:

not sure hw would be able to move to union and then into the nrl? history seems to show people who go to union arent the league players they once were when they come back. would an nrl side throw big cash at him as a union player?

They did with Wendell Sailor, Lote Tuqiri and Matt Rogers.

Re: Sam/Union : Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:11 pm  

Just watched Sam on Boots n all and he's a likeable man off the field and he is without doubt the face of RL. He will be a big loss when he does decide to play kick and run.

Re: Sam/Union : Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:27 pm  

Warrington Wolf wrote:

Just watched Sam on Boots n all and he's a likeable man off the field and he is without doubt the face of RL. He will be a big loss when he does decide to play kick and run.

We have been telling people this for years

[Durham Giant]

Re: Sam/Union : Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:22 pm  

Warrington Wolf wrote:

Just watched Sam on Boots n all and he's a likeable man off the field and he is without doubt the face of RL. He will be a big loss when he does decide to play kick and run.

I would echo that as well. For a RL player he was remarkably eloquent.

I would have no complaint with HIM being paid more in respect to SC exemption to keep him in RL

Re: Sam/Union : Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:45 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

They did with Wendell Sailor, Lote Tuqiri and Matt Rogers.

And Sonny Bill Williams who iirc will be the highest paid player in the NRL this season, if not one of the highest paid.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:09 pm  

where would sam play if he did go to union

i'm no expert, but FB is completely different, you need to be able to catch and kick, so his elusiveness at FB in league will be wasted

Wingers get less ball than i do in Row W East Stand in Union, so i cant see him playing wing

that leaves the fly half / scrum half or whatever they are called in union, which i dont think will be right for him either

so it looks like if he is going to leave it would be the NRL

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:19 pm  

The pieman wrote:

where would sam play if he did go to union

i'm no expert, but FB is completely different, you need to be able to catch and kick, so his elusiveness at FB in league will be wasted

Wingers get less ball than i do in Row W East Stand in Union, so i cant see him playing wing

that leaves the fly half / scrum half or whatever they are called in union, which i dont think will be right for him either

so it looks like if he is going to leave it would be the NRL

agreed. look at the successful international converts from league to union, and its generally been on the wing.
the halves are a completely different proposition between the 2 games (you get even less space/time in union because of the back row hounding you so instinct is crucial) and FB is basically a kicking and catching game with a bit of counter attack.
the only other position he might be able to play in where he would have the space to create an impact would be centre (a la Guscott/Twelvetrees), but that would require a bit of bulking up and a lot of learning (and would he have time to adapt?)

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:25 pm  

ShortArse wrote:

agreed. look at the successful international converts from league to union, and its generally been on the wing.
the halves are a completely different proposition between the 2 games (you get even less space/time in union because of the back row hounding you so instinct is crucial) and FB is basically a kicking and catching game with a bit of counter attack.
the only other position he might be able to play in where he would have the space to create an impact would be centre (a la Guscott/Twelvetrees), but that would require a bit of bulking up and a lot of learning (and would he have time to adapt?)

and i think the other thing is that they have tried to convert back row forwards into inside / outside centres in Union

why they cant take one of our centres and play there is beyond me (not that i want any to move)

i'm pretty sure Faz was signed to play centre as was Joel. Faz was never the fastest forward in League, so it was beyond me why they wanted him as a centre

i think some of the other names posted earlier pretty much sums up what you have said also - Sailor, Rogers, Tuqiri, Robinson, Ashton - all wingers and all made it

[Pemps]

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:03 am  

The pieman wrote:

and i think the other thing is that they have tried to convert back row forwards into inside / outside centres in Union

why they cant take one of our centres and play there is beyond me (not that i want any to move)

i'm pretty sure Faz was signed to play centre as was Joel. Faz was never the fastest forward in League, so it was beyond me why they wanted him as a centre

i think some of the other names posted earlier pretty much sums up what you have said also - Sailor, Rogers, Tuqiri, Robinson, Ashton - all wingers and all made it

RU centres are completely different to RL centres. The inside centre is almost a traditional RL stand off where as the outside centre is more of a crash ball centre, akin to a RL second row. That's the nearest comparison I can make anyway.

They really are 2 completely different games.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:10 am  

Sam to Salford! http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... rd-1347811

Sam to Salford! http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... rd-1347811