Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:17 am  

Baked Bean Boogie wrote:

how do you know Smith, Charnley & Farrell won't go?, a British player has to be something special to go over there, Holdsworth, who i think would be a great signing for us doesn't have that bit of magic that the Aussies look for in a British player IMO, not many do, hence the small number of British stars in the NRL, Soward on the other hand comes from the NRL and most probably would want to finish his career there, he will be 28 next season and i couldn't see us keeping him for more than 2 seasons if he did come, sod that let's have some stability and have a half back pairing that will be together for at least 4 seasons, it hasn't done Leeds any harm

Holdsworth is an Aussie.

Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:28 am  

How long before Ryan Hampshire and George Williams are ready?

Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:11 pm  

Baked Bean Boogie wrote:

dubairl wrote:

how do you know holdsworth wouldn't do one if a NRL club came calling. there is no comparision in this Soward is a far better player than Holdsworth.

soward has shown he can defended and very well, he did a very good job against in the WCC. passing game is qaulity, running game is qaulity, kicking game is qaulity. the only thing that lets him down is drifting out of matches but i dont think it will happen with our structers and in superleague

how do you know Smith, Charnley & Farrell won't go?, a British player has to be something special to go over there, Holdsworth, who i think would be a great signing for us doesn't have that bit of magic that the Aussies look for in a British player IMO, not many do, hence the small number of British stars in the NRL, Soward on the other hand comes from the NRL and most probably would want to finish his career there, he will be 28 next season and i couldn't see us keeping him for more than 2 seasons if he did come, sod that let's have some stability and have a half back pairing that will be together for at least 4 seasons, it hasn't done Leeds any harm

this is a double blooper. holdsworth is an aussie mate so if he started to shine at wigan he could be on hes way back to aus. Also thanks for supporting my view on soward he is a qaulity player and thats why he got hes call up to NSW in last years origin, so all in i would say Soward would be the better signing. but i do agree with you that we do need to keep the core players for some stability but it wont happen at wigan because any half decent player comes up the union lot will start tapping them up. hopefully hampshire will make the step up in the next 2 years and stick around for awhile.

Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:13 pm  

Cherry.Pie wrote:

Holdsworth is an Aussie.

i thought he was Welsh , i'd still take a pop on him due to the Matty Smith connection, Soward would have to get used to the superb weather we have as well as getting used to a new halfback partner, with Holdsworth that work is already done

Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:16 pm  

Baked Bean Boogie wrote:

i thought he was Welsh , i'd still take a pop on him due to the Matty Smith connection, Soward would have to get used to the superb weather we have as well as getting used to a new halfback partner, with Holdsworth that work is already done

hes already played at the DW in the world club challenge and had a very good game so i am sure it wouldnt bother him to much, and i think hes kicking game would take us that step up from what we are now.

Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:44 pm  

Dai Jones wrote:

How long before Ryan Hampshire and George Williams are ready?

Not long before they'll be ready to be introduced to Super League although playing regularly is another matter and it's impossible to tell. I'd guess that both would be ready for at least one or two games in Super League next year.

Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:27 pm  

Was talking to a mate who regularly watched Hampshire in his amateur days at Normanton Knights. He said that Hampshire is a real talent when everything is going well but goes missing when the rough stuff starts. Be interesting to see if he has the heart for first team rugby ala Sam Tomkins or whether his talent is wasted due to lack of heart ala Kyle Eastmond. Time will tell

Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:30 pm  

What both Holdsworth and Soward bring to their game is that they are both excellent goalkickers.
Next year is Pat's last on his current contract and whether he stays or not we don't know. Either of those two 6s would make ideal replacements for Pat, as far as goalkicking goes, when he eventually does leave.

Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:34 pm  

Hull FC look to have won the race for holdworth. We need to make sure we get soward now

Re: Rumours and signings v8 : Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:36 pm  

Cherry.Pie wrote:

Not long before they'll be ready to be introduced to Super League although playing regularly is another matter and it's impossible to tell. I'd guess that both would be ready for at least one or two games in Super League next year.

very excited to see Ryan Hampshire develop into a top class super league player, perhaps a loan to a championship team next year to further development?