[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:19 pm  

P-J wrote:

We (Lenagan) would receive a minor sum to release Edwards from his contract.

So we'd be in the same boat.

He doesn't want to be here. End of story.

He knows he can change his mind and tout his services about because he doesn't have the contract the club claimed he signed. One of the reasons he said he would only take over for 2020 was that he was under contract with Wales and wouldn't break it. It would be infinitely harder to be in this mess both from Edwards side and any RU club/nation wanting him now had he signed a contract.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:33 pm  

As an outsider it looks like Edwards has pooped on Wigan from a great height. Naive of IL not to have a signed contract but Edwards wasn’t blackmailed into giving “that” video.
I’m guessing there will be no Cunningham style statue for him. Having said all that I was never sure why you would want a coach who had been out of the game for so long and had never coached a pro RL team.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:03 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

100%

Why drag this out? How could he possibly become our coach now even if he decided we’re worthy? I do not want him anywhere near the club and how it still seems to be very much ball in his court is just beyond me.

Effort needs to be going in to finding a new coach and the half a new team he’s going to need. Moves for good players (not just scraps that are left) will be getting made now and we need stability and for potential new recruits to know who the coach is going to be.

One possibility is IL wants Edwards to come out and state he's not taking up the coaching roll at Wigan in 2020. It won't make a scrap of difference, but IL can attempt to claim the moral high ground.

Either that, or bad situation is being made worse.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:09 am  

I do not care a jot who provided what clarity or says what - it is all just hot air and with no one ending up with any real credibility out of this ridiculous situation (fault lies all around despite what some may claim).

It is time to end this sorry mess and move on, Edwards will not (or should not) be coach here next year so we need to end the recriminations and look to find someone who does want to be here and who knows RL and can take the club forward, experience will be essential given the huge amount of player turnover likely over the next season or two.

Time to move on.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:16 am  

Major error is with Wigan and IL. If anyone is worked in business or contracts knows you must secure a contact, otherwise the agreement doesn't really exist. All this verbal agreement or handshake is too vague.

Considering previous contact/announcement issues, namely the recent 'lie' about John Bateman, it's hard to have any sympathy for IL, especially as he's a seasoned businessman and knows the ins and outs of deals/contracts.

However, all this can be rectified. Shaun can decide he wants the job and IL can provide the investment into on-field talent to allow Edwards to build the team in his vision using his contacts and status across both codes.

Many on here have cleaned their hands of Shaun over this, but it can be argued there's a bigger picture. Who else is obtainable who has such status in both codes? Who else can genuinely attract top talent from union as well as SL/further afield?
Having Shaun Edwards back in RL is not just a massive step for Wigan, but for RL. It's a win-win, he's a proven winner and has a massive 'rugby' global profile.

I don't see who else can bring what he can bring.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:25 am  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Major error is with Wigan and IL. If anyone is worked in business or contracts knows you must secure a contact, otherwise the agreement doesn't really exist. All this verbal agreement or handshake is too vague.

Considering previous contact/announcement issues, namely the recent 'lie' about John Bateman, it's hard to have any sympathy for IL, especially as he's a seasoned businessman and knows the ins and outs of deals/contracts.

However, all this can be rectified. Shaun can decide he wants the job and IL can provide the investment into on-field talent to allow Edwards to build the team in his vision using his contacts and status across both codes.

Many on here have cleaned their hands of Shaun over this, but it can be argued there's a bigger picture. Who else is obtainable who has such status in both codes? Who else can genuinely attract top talent from union as well as SL/further afield?
Having Shaun Edwards back in RL is not just a massive step for Wigan, but for RL. It's a win-win, he's a proven winner and has a massive 'rugby' global profile.

I don't see who else can bring what he can bring.

I would agree if I knew for certain that he really wants to be here, nothing he has said gives me that impression, furthermore I would always be nervous that if the dark side came knocking at his door he would be off like a shot, leaving us in the cack without even a shed of remorse from the mercenary Mr Edwards.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:28 am  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

He knows he can change his mind and tout his services about because he doesn't have the contract the club claimed he signed. One of the reasons he said he would only take over for 2020 was that he was under contract with Wales and wouldn't break it. It would be infinitely harder to be in this mess both from Edwards side and any RU club/nation wanting him now had he signed a contract.

Spot on this. Not making ANY player or coach sign a contract is like daring them to change their mind. This is especially true when there is quite a long gap between them joining the club.

The simple fact is that Lenegan should not of been parading Edwards if he had not signed a contract. He should of just announced Lam on a one year trial and left the Edwards announcement until mid season this year and he was signed to a contract.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:52 am  

“My heads mashed, I need a holiday and space & time to think. But I’ll do a newspaper interview with The Sunday Times.”

Get this pr!ck dropped and move on.
Love the club & town, my booty. You’re nothing more than a greedy southerner with a Wigan accent. I don’t want someone who disrespects my club, anywhere near my club, ever again.
Bore off with your half arsed effort to get away from the commitment you made. Grow a pair and just tell everyone what you want.

It’s ok though, because he ‘respects everything IL has done at Wigan’.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:16 pm  

If people were't convinced that Shaun Edwards is a dirty little sneak who should never darken Wigan's doors again, they ought to be after this interview. It practically screams 'England come and get me! I'm all yours!' I've never read an interview with any sports personality as pathetically self-serving as this. https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby- ... -1-9668857

If people were't convinced that Shaun Edwards is a dirty little sneak who should never darken Wigan's doors again, they ought to be after this interview. It practically screams 'England come and get me! I'm all yours!' I've never read an interview with any sports personality as pathetically self-serving as this. https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby- ... -1-9668857

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:50 pm  

billys pineapple wrote:

I would agree if I knew for certain that he really wants to be here, nothing he has said gives me that impression, furthermore I would always be nervous that if the dark side came knocking at his door he would be off like a shot, leaving us in the cack without even a shed of remorse from the mercenary Mr Edwards.

If a contact was drawn and signed he couldn't just up and leave. It would have to be with the agreement of the club. The non-signature is the main issue.

But I agree, it does seem th'owd Shaun would prefer a trip to Twickers at the weekend.