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Re: Saints (m) : Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:36 am  
Our defence doesn’t worry me in the slightest tbh. I’ll go all Saints fan here and say we’ve been disrupted and we’re constantly shuffling things around, especially in the spine positions, with bans for huge defenders for us like Powell and Smithies and that’s not helping but it’s mainly just a concentration issue IMO. In the knock out games this season in the cup we conceded 0,6,18 and 14, so never over 20 points and an average 9.5 points per game (plus one of Saints try’s was offside :wink: ).
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Re: Saints (m) : Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:41 am  
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I suppose in a roundabout way my point is that it's having it both ways to think to think:

a) the first forty minutes where Wigan were the better team was totally atypical due to a combination of injuries, Wigan playing at our maximum and Saints playing as bad a half as they have in years, and at the same time, b) The twenty minutes in the second half where Saints scored off near enough every chance they had off the back off the back of some poor Wigan errors simply reflects normal service being resumed.

Not saying that this is how you see things! But I definitely got a sense of this view from a few Saints fans at the time.


All teams have that group of fans who have those types of opinion, especially when successful and their fan base grows with glory hunters that think they have a divine right to win every game. You know the sort, the referee never gives them a single penalty/decision and everyone is against them. Typical of what we're reading from Saints fans currently, but like I say it comes off the back of the success they've had. They won't point to a poor level of competition in 2019, luck in 2020 and a few decisions/covid tactics in 2021 - they will simply say they're the greatest side in the history of the game.

I hope we're hearing all the excuses again on Saturday night.
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Re: Saints (m) : Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:44 am  
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huge defenders for us like Powell and Smithies


Plus Tommy.
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Re: Saints (m) : Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:02 am  
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Plus Tommy.


Indeed. Tommy, Smithies and Powell could well be our best 3 defenders and then you’ve had the centres changing constantly and Field and French moving between full back and stand off or wing and fullback. Even so we should’ve defended better at times but when the time is right and the big games come around, I’m confident we’ll be switched on and ready.
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Re: Saints (m) : Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:23 am  
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They won't point to a poor level of competition in 2019, luck in 2020 and a few decisions/covid tactics in 2021 - they will simply say they're the greatest side in the history of the game.



:lol:

And I presume when Wigan won all those leagues in the 80s that the competition was higher than ever? Everyone else was spending £400k on wingers like Offiah...

Funny that since the salary cap has been in existence, Wigan's leagues have dried up somewhat.

What an awful lucky team we are. Should probably strip us of our last 3 titles to be fair based on your statement.
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Re: Saints (m) : Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:30 am  
Squads named. No Percival or Makinson for Saints, so if we can give them a game upfront we’ll be a chance. Cust back for us but I’d probably use him from the bench.

I’d go-

French
Miski Bibby Pearce-Paul Marshall
Field Smith
Singleton Powell Ellis
Bateman Farrell Smithies

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Looking forward to the weekend.
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Re: Saints (m) : Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:43 am  
NickyKiss wrote:
Squads named. No Percival or Makinson for Saints, so if we can give them a game upfront we’ll be a chance. Cust back for us but I’d probably use him from the bench.

I’d go-

French
Miski Bibby Pearce-Paul Marshall
Field Smith
Singleton Powell Ellis
Bateman Farrell Smithies

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Looking forward to the weekend.


Makinson is out for 3-5 weeks so not sure why you seem surprised he's not playing.
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Re: Saints (m) : Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:13 pm  
Stu M wrote:
:lol:

And I presume when Wigan won all those leagues in the 80s that the competition was higher than ever? Everyone else was spending £400k on wingers like Offiah...

Funny that since the salary cap has been in existence, Wigan's leagues have dried up somewhat.

What an awful lucky team we are. Should probably strip us of our last 3 titles to be fair based on your statement.


Wigan didn't sign Martin Offiah in the 1980's, but we did have Mark Preston and Jason Robinson coming through. Watch the Leeds v Saints cup tie in 1992 and see all those Saints part time players!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Pc6kv ... l=Andy1adL
Stu M wrote:
:lol:

And I presume when Wigan won all those leagues in the 80s that the competition was higher than ever? Everyone else was spending £400k on wingers like Offiah...

Funny that since the salary cap has been in existence, Wigan's leagues have dried up somewhat.

What an awful lucky team we are. Should probably strip us of our last 3 titles to be fair based on your statement.


Wigan didn't sign Martin Offiah in the 1980's, but we did have Mark Preston and Jason Robinson coming through. Watch the Leeds v Saints cup tie in 1992 and see all those Saints part time players!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Pc6kv ... l=Andy1adL
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Re: Saints (m) : Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:21 pm  
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Wigan didn't sign Martin Offiah in the 1980's, but we did have Mark Preston and Jason Robinson coming through. Watch the Leeds v Saints cup tie in 1992 and see all those Saints part time players!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Pc6kv ... l=Andy1adL


Don’t quote facts to the man. It doesn’t fit with the agenda :SHOOT:
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Wigan didn't sign Martin Offiah in the 1980's, but we did have Mark Preston and Jason Robinson coming through. Watch the Leeds v Saints cup tie in 1992 and see all those Saints part time players!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Pc6kv ... l=Andy1adL


Don’t quote facts to the man. It doesn’t fit with the agenda :SHOOT:
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Re: Saints (m) : Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:27 pm  
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Makinson is out for 3-5 weeks so not sure why you seem surprised he's not playing.



Where have I noted my surprise? Simply pointing it out as being confirmed now for anybody not aware.

Saints are extremely honest, lead by the honest as the day is long Mr Woolf, so I never expected any game playing :D
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