Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:08 pm  

Seth wrote:

Quick and supports well, though poor decision maker and weak defensively. As mentioned earlier a slightly better version of Dwyer.

I think that is a fair summary apart from the Dwyer reference. Dwyer is very poor defensively.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:11 pm  

christopher wrote:

Leeds fan here in peace.

Leeming is a good player and will have some great games, but he has his weaknesses.

He was more often than not taking the wrong option on important plays and isn't a 9 who distributes and works well with the half backs, largely this is the reason Rohan Smith preferred O'Conner (who is now a better hooker IMO!)

Leemings defence is pretty ropey for a nine, often pushed off in contact and can be a bit lazy in his defensive duties.

I think he's an OK signing for you guys but 4 years is way too long IMO and I would wager that e doesn't see out his contract just as he didn't for Hudds and Leeds, and he basically threw his toys out of the pram with us when it was obvious he didn't want to share the hooking duties and got dropped as captain.

From what Ive seen I think you've got a better player in O'Neil.

I would agree with that. I don’t see Leeming being at Wigan more than two years if O’Neill and Forber continue to improve. If I was Rads both of those two lads would be on long term deals.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:13 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

It is - I just hope Brad O'Neill isn't inclined to look elsewhere. He's really progressed over the last few months and hopefully Wigan have reassured him that he's still a big part of the plan going forward. Definitely think its the right decision to move on from Powell but O'Neill and Leeming need to be looked at as equals with the best performer starting.

Notice Saints fans comparing him to their potential signing in Daryl Clark and most saying they have the better deal. Not sure on that one - there are pros and cons to both. Clark has definitely reached heights that Leeming hasn't got to yet. But then his recent form has been generally poor, he's 3-4 years older and his game mostly centred around his pace from.duy half (something that he won't have as much of at 31).

It will also be interesting to see how/if the Aussies have improved Leeming.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:17 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

Good signings there. Whether they will all be successful time will tell. Just shows where the club think our problem area is when they sign a complete front row and announce them all within 24 hours.
As for departures, Mago and Singleton obviously but Cust now seems vulnerable and Powell appears to be on the outer. Cust back to Auis and Powell to Hudds. They miss Levi and Watson may try something different with Powell.

It was as obvious as the nose on their face. We have tried to fix it up with Singo, Mago, Ellis and Cooper and we have had limited success.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:59 pm  

Jack Burton wrote:

When he's good he's excellent. He's quick out of dummy half, kicks well from deep out of dummy half, and is a good support player. However, his decision making is erratic, his defence for a hooker is poor, and his distribution isn't what you'd expect from a top 9. He's basically a better version of Brad Dwyer.

Think you’re being kind. Not as quick, or dynamic as Dwyer. Be interesting to see how he go’s, as Wigan take a good defensive 9 as absolutely granted…..
Leeming is not that….

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:08 pm  

4 years for a hooker who can’t pass to the right and can’t tackle? Who’s only threat of being busy around the ruck has been nullified by refs allowing defenders to lie on at the Ruck? This is a terrible signing

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:53 pm  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

4 years for a hooker who can’t pass to the right and can’t tackle? Who’s only threat of being busy around the ruck has been nullified by refs allowing defenders to lie on at the Ruck? This is a terrible signing

Interesting times ahead with Wire, Saints and now Wigan all freshening up their 9s.

I still think Clark is the best of the 3 on the move but he in my opinion has almost impossible boots to fill and a squad very much going into a transitional phase.

Given your track record on here I’m though in regards “scoops” and general cluelessness in relation to posts I’m confident he will be a good addition to the Wigan squad.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:12 pm  

Imho think you’d be better off with Powell/O’Neill. You have two magical players in the backs who can create.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:18 pm  

I love the amount of opposition fans who are ripping the Leeming signing about the place, as though we’re totally dependant on him being a raging success. I think he’ll go well but either way, we’ll be fine. We’ve got Brad O’Neill developing very nicely and Tom Forber waiting for an opportunity.

The concern is nice but don’t be worrying about us, we’ll be absolutely fine. We’re making promising signings, have more to come and have 3 or 4 young players, playing either here or on loan, who look the real deal.

Re: Kruise Leeming signed from 2024 : Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:33 pm  

Leeming will go just fine for Wigan. He's not without flaws but a big upgrade on Powell. Dont forget he was in the SL dream team 18 months ago and Peet and co have already shown capability in improving players. Its not a coincidence that the majority of critics are either Leeds fans annoyed that he fell out with Rohan Smith or those from the other side of Billinge Hill.

As I said earlier in the thread, as long as Leeming and O'Neill are treated as equals and the best is chosen to start then I'm more than happy.