Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:02 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

Thanks for update Stu.
Brings a lot more clarity but unfortunately the oversight still remains with us.
Not sure why a SF should trigger a change particularly when the unlimited subs presumably is for young players welfare.

Oh yeah its a poor look for the game no question.

Saints will now have their achievement downgraded a little (if we win) given that Saints and Wigan are the top 2 teams and have won one game each against each other this season. This would've been the decider. The coaching staff will have watched videos on Wigan alll week and now have a different opponent.

The players at Wigan are now denied a chance to play in a Final

The Warrington lads haven't trained all week and are now called back to play in two days time.

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:26 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Just found out more about it. Not trying to defend Wigan by any means but it seems that for regular season games there are unlimited subs. Its not like SL whereby if a player is injured they'll carry on playing after being strapped up. At Academy level any sign of an injury and they are subbed straight away. Given that this has been the norm over the season, Wigan have carried on in this way.

Both sides were told that given it was a SF there would only be 8 interchanges but it seems like somewhere in the middle of it all, this has been ignored.

Apparently Warrington didn't make an official complaint as such, they just referenced the fact that for future knockout games there should be interchange officials available. Its then snowballed from there and as soon as a Board meeting was called there was only ever going to be one outcome and a precedent set.

I am shocked,so sorry for the lads.I now can see the issue with your explanation Stu but it still rests on Wigans shoulders.

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:42 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Oh yeah its a poor look for the game no question.

Saints will now have their achievement downgraded a little (if we win) given that Saints and Wigan are the top 2 teams and have won one game each against each other this season. This would've been the decider. The coaching staff will have watched videos on Wigan alll week and now have a different opponent.

The players at Wigan are now denied a chance to play in a Final

The Warrington lads haven't trained all week and are now called back to play in two days time.

Poor look is too lenient in my opinion. Shambolic is for me more accurate. I’d love have a chat with the people who changed the rules to listen to their rationale.
This unfortunately still doesn’t get us off the hook as we did not adhere to the rules and the players have been let down by the club.
A sorry situation for the game and particularly for the players involved.

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:45 pm  

For some of these Wigan lads, it might be their last chance of winning a trophy as some may not make it in the professional game. It should have been the highlight of their short life and a memory that no one could take away. That’s been denied to them and I feel so sorry for them.

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:40 pm  

Seems that when w@nky where doing their match review they spoted that Wigan had made to many interchanges .
They therefore reported you to the RFL
Am still going but won't be enjoyable as a Saints v Wigan final would have been

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:41 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Oh yeah its a poor look for the game no question.

Saints will now have their achievement downgraded a little (if we win) given that Saints and Wigan are the top 2 teams and have won one game each against each other this season. This would've been the decider. The coaching staff will have watched videos on Wigan alll week and now have a different opponent.

The players at Wigan are now denied a chance to play in a Final

The Warrington lads haven't trained all week and are now called back to play in two days time.

Acctualy wire have been training all week

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:44 pm  

RobRiches wrote:

For some of these Wigan lads, it might be their last chance of winning a trophy as some may not make it in the professional game. It should have been the highlight of their short life and a memory that no one could take away. That’s been denied to them and I feel so sorry for them.

Yeah, this would likely have been the pinnacle of some of the lads careers and it’s been taken away.

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:08 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

Thanks for update Stu.
Brings a lot more clarity but unfortunately the oversight still remains with us.
Not sure why a SF should trigger a change particularly when the unlimited subs presumably is for young players welfare.

That’s a very good question

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:58 pm  

The game is just so amateur at times! the biggest game of the season results in a reduction in the amount of officials involved and a change in the seasons rules! Absolutely incredible that but we’ve still massively messed up and the young fellas pay for it.

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:28 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

The game is just so amateur at times! the biggest game of the season results in a reduction in the amount of officials involved and a change in the seasons rules! Absolutely incredible that but we’ve still massively messed up and the young fellas pay for it.

Just to clarify, my understanding is that they didn’t change the number of officials for the SF, there’s been no interchange official all season at Academy level.