Re: Covid : Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:23 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

You've been told numerous times, but you don't want to listen

I thought the figure was 90% not vaccinated at all, now it’s not been boosted. Bit of a different message now then.

Maybe it has something to do with the boosters running out of date.

Re: Covid : Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:00 pm  

WiganRL12345 wrote: I thought the figure was 90% not vaccinated at all, now it’s not been boosted. Bit of a different message now then. Maybe it has something to do with the boosters running out of date. Yeah maybe (Not really) Or You could be that your trying to push a message/agenda that most people arent falling for See Josh Rogan did well in his latest podcast https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... 92999.html

WiganRL12345 wrote: I thought the figure was 90% not vaccinated at all, now it’s not been boosted. Bit of a different message now then. Maybe it has something to do with the boosters running out of date. Yeah maybe (Not really) Or You could be that your trying to push a message/agenda that most people arent falling for See Josh Rogan did well in his latest podcast https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... 92999.html

Re: Covid : Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:21 pm  

WiganRL12345 wrote:

Other quotes from Boris is that he didn’t know I was at a party…

Like anyone is going to believe a word this man says now.

Love to know how they have worked those figures out.

Why are you saying you would love to know how they have worked those figures out?

Because you want to see evidence? Or you think it’s too difficult to calculate?

Re: Covid : Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:15 pm  

Its not 90%. Its around 60%. However before the anti vaxxers start with their "LoL vAcCiNeS dOnt WoRk" they should really start to have a think about why there are just as many people in ICU who are vaccinated as unvaccinated.

Its not that difficult and it actually proves that vaccines do work

Re: Covid : Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:49 pm  

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... bruary2021 The attached is very interesting, 'There was a total of 9400 deaths in 2020 that were due to COVID-19 and were recorded without any pre-existing conditions.'

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... bruary2021 The attached is very interesting, 'There was a total of 9400 deaths in 2020 that were due to COVID-19 and were recorded without any pre-existing conditions.'

Re: Covid : Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:04 pm  

Sweaty Betty's wrote:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19withnopreexistingconditionsfromjuly2020tofebruary2021

The attached is very interesting, 'There was a total of 9400 deaths in 2020 that were due to COVID-19 and were recorded without any pre-existing conditions.'

and? if covid killed you because of the pre existing condition would it not be covid that killed you? fore example, freddie mercury dies from pneumonia as a result of aids, what killed him? aids or pneumonia? Both would probably end of on the certificate like covid

Re: Covid : Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:47 pm  

Sweaty Betty's wrote:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19withnopreexistingconditionsfromjuly2020tofebruary2021

The attached is very interesting, 'There was a total of 9400 deaths in 2020 that were due to COVID-19 and were recorded without any pre-existing conditions.'

There were more than 9400 and that is actually scary. That tens of thousands of people who were healthy could die from it. If only we had some defense against it?

Re: Covid : Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:51 pm  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

There were more than 9400 and that is actually scary. That tens of thousands of people who were healthy could die from it. If only we had some defense against it?

What? Could you please refrain from communicating in Scouse?

Re: Covid : Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:10 pm  

Pieman wrote:

and? if covid killed you because of the pre existing condition would it not be covid that killed you? fore example, freddie mercury dies from pneumonia as a result of aids, what killed him? aids or pneumonia? Both would probably end of on the certificate like covid

First and foremost, I am not using the attached to create an argument. I just think that it is interesting and worth debating. We all know that the figures being banded about regarding Covid deaths are not accurate and they have been used as part of the government's narrative. What concerns me is, if these figures are in anyway realistic then the actions taken and the suffering inflicted has been totally unnecessary. Another useful fact life expectancy which is currently 81.2 in the UK (sorry about putting these figures forward if you are currently 81) compared with the average age of death (median and mean) of persons whose death was due to COVID-19 or involved COVID-19, by sex, deaths registered in week ending 9 October 2020 to week ending 1 January 2021, England and Wales.


Median Mean
Involving COVID-19 Due to COVID-19 Involving COVID-19 Due to COVID-19
People 82 83 80.5 80.7
Males 81 81 79.2 79.4
Females 84 84 82.2 82.4

Re: Covid : Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:21 pm  

Sweaty Betty's wrote:

First and foremost, I am not using the attached to create an argument. I just think that it is interesting and worth debating. We all know that the figures being banded about regarding Covid deaths are not accurate and they have been used as part of the government's narrative. What concerns me is, if these figures are in anyway realistic then the actions taken and the suffering inflicted has been totally unnecessary. Another useful fact life expectancy which is currently 81.2 in the UK (sorry about putting these figures forward if you are currently 81) compared with the average age of death (median and mean) of persons whose death was due to COVID-19 or involved COVID-19, by sex, deaths registered in week ending 9 October 2020 to week ending 1 January 2021, England and Wales.


Median Mean
Involving COVID-19 Due to COVID-19 Involving COVID-19 Due to COVID-19
People 82 83 80.5 80.7
Males 81 81 79.2 79.4
Females 84 84 82.2 82.4

for 100's of years in this country during an epidemic if there is a death during it will be used as a cause of death, I mean I have been diagnosed with flu about 5 times in my life by a gp but never had a test, so at that time im a stat, if i dies during a flu season with pneumonia I would die of both flu and that, its how its recorded here, its why we can never compare to other countries as all countries use different systems to record deaths so are flawed just by looking like that, use us and the US and look at covid and it isnt right as they record different as china do etc, like you im not here to argue but they are that side of the argument