Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:58 pm  

Wigan Peer wrote:

Which is why IL leaves an open door for players who leave....

I can see a Wigan RU side in the not too distant future.

Maybe it's the only way we could ever reach our potential.....

I'd personally love us to be an NRL franchise side. A few months camped over there with a block of home games over consecutive summer weeks. With the increased cap space we could target the majority of the English talent with a best of both worlds type offering - NRL rugby with a primarily UK fixed location.

A kind of Super 14 set up of sorts.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:02 pm  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

RU salary cap rises to £6m, then £6.5m, then £7m over the three seasons after this. We haven't got a prayer.

The Daily Express carried the same story about the increases in the Rugby Union Salary Cap for the next couple of seasons it went on to say.
"An investigation into breaches of the cap last season have resulted in appropriate financial settlements, rather than points penalties for the Clubs involved"

Its as if the Union are saying to the Clubs you can do what you want as long as we get a cut.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:03 pm  

Wigan Peer wrote:

Which is why IL leaves an open door for players who leave....

I can see a Wigan RU side in the not too distant future.

15 S Tomkins
14 Manfredi
13 J Tomkins
12 Lockers
11 Charnley
10 Williams
9 Micky Mac
8 Ben Flower
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I struggle after that!

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:27 pm  

stillinthepast wrote:

The Daily Express carried the same story about the increases in the Rugby Union Salary Cap for the next couple of seasons it went on to say.
"An investigation into breaches of the cap last season have resulted in appropriate financial settlements, rather than points penalties for the Clubs involved"

Its as if the Union are saying to the Clubs you can do what you want as long as we get a cut.

I think there's a real appetite among the bigger RU sides to scrap or increase the cap further.

Ourside of the international side they have a cracking European competition. The only issue is that, uncapped French sides are dominating it with the ability to bank role big money moves for the best players. Cash rich sides like Leicester are desperate to match them.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:31 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

15 S Tomkins
14 Manfredi
13 J Tomkins
12 Lockers
11 Charnley
10 Williams
9 Micky Mac
8 Ben Flower
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I struggle after that!

Smith could play 7 and Gelling and Sarge would make it also. 11 players from a squad of 30 or so isn't a bad start imo.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:03 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

15 S Tomkins
14 Manfredi
13 J Tomkins
12 Lockers
11 Charnley
10 Williams
9 Micky Mac
8 Ben Flower
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I struggle after that!

I meant as well as, not instead of!!!! I damn near choked on mi pie!!!!

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:32 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

15 S Tomkins
14 Manfredi
13 J Tomkins
12 Lockers
11 Charnley
10 Williams
9 Micky Mac
8 Ben Flower
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I struggle after that!

Never mind finding players, would we have enough Hoorey Henries in Wigan to watch the team ? , I also think Mustard Tiger should be allowed back to add his well balanced views to this discussion.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:00 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

15 S Tomkins
14 Manfredi
13 J Tomkins
12 Lockers
11 Charnley
10 Williams
9 Micky Mac
8 Ben Flower
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I struggle after that!

Williams is far too entertaining to play at number ten in Union.

Sir Kev will be perfection! He will kick from the hand, kick goals and kick drop goals and that's basically all you need to be considered a good fly half.

Sinfield would be a hero worshipped, 100 cap, multi millionaire if he had moved over to Union around the time of Johnny Wilkinsons retirement.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:43 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Williams is far too entertaining to play at number ten in Union.

Sir Kev will be perfection! He will kick from the hand, kick goals and kick drop goals and that's basically all you need to be considered a good fly half.

Sinfield would be a hero worshipped, 100 cap, multi millionaire if he had moved over to Union around the time of Johnny Wilkinsons retirement.

Nicky I think you are right with your assessment of Sir Kevs chances in R/U, as long has he hadn't been tainted by Rugby League beforehand.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:16 pm  

[quote="Last Son of Wigan"]15 S Tomkins
14 Manfredi
13 J Tomkins
12 Lockers
11 Charnley
10 Williams
9 Micky Mac
8 Ben Flower
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I struggle after that![/quote

All talented players but none would set the RU world alight in that formation. We have seen that Joel was quickly overtaken in the pecking order by the likes of Burrell. Manfred and Charnley suit RL and strong running wingers are ten a penny from the South Sea Islands. Lockers is less of a centre than JT. Mickey Mac is not going to challenge as a scrum half in union, and Flower is just the wrong size and shape. The only real prospect would be Williams.
The crux of the argument seems to be that any RL player is so much better that they could walk into an RU team and we know that that rarely works. An alternative argument would be that most RU players could be taught RL if we got them early enough and vice versa. For the likes of Charley that boat has already sailed.