Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:45 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

Am I completely missing something here?

Why on Earth would switching back to a Winter season make the game better and increase attendances? And why would it mean we would see touring teams again?

Because "it was better in my day, I tell thee."

They're supporters that have become a little disillusioned about our current form/league structure and are looking for an excuse to justify not getting another season ticket.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:20 pm  

Suzy Banyon wrote:

Because "it was better in my day, I tell thee."

They're supporters that have become a little disillusioned about our current form/league structure and are looking for an excuse to justify not getting another season ticket.

The current form has nothing to do with it, its the state of rugby league in general that i'm disillusioned about. I no longer have the desire to watch the game, which is something that i would never ever have thought i would hear myself saying. Sad but true.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:33 pm  

AntGiant wrote:

We (the giants) have a better side too in my opinion.
Salford certainly do.

Fulltime at Rapid Solicitors Stadium: Wakefield 42 Salford 6

Yeah salford are top notch..... My point was that RL is going backwards, the weak have dragged all back to their level.. Our top players are elsewhere, and RL in this country is in a parlous state...

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:56 pm  

hatty wrote:

As for attendances has summer rugby really increased attendances? Answer: No it hasn't. Has the game improved since we reverted to summer rugby? Answer: No it hasn't. Do the same four teams still win everything as per pre 1996? Answer: Yes they do, Have we improved on the international scene since the switch? Answer: No, Australia still win at a canter.
I know we will never revert back to winter rugby but when we all look back and say where everything went wrong i think you will find that 1996 will be high up on the list as one of the biggest mistakes the game as a whole made.

As for attendances has summer rugby really increased attendances? Answer: yes it has

Has the game improved since we reverted to summer rugby? Answer: yes it has.

Do the same four teams still win everything as per pre 1996? Answer: No they don't. Only 1 team won pre super league. Saints and leeds didn't win.

I know we will never revert back to winter rugby and that's a good thing because the game was dying on it's booty back then.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:02 pm  

hatty wrote:

The current form has nothing to do with it, its the state of rugby league in general that i'm disillusioned about. I no longer have the desire to watch the game, which is something that i would never ever have thought i would hear myself saying. Sad but true.

That's your problem, not the games.

Right now we are on the verge of one of the most exciting closely contested finishes and playoff series ever contested. There have been more draws then ever this season, with exciting games going down to the last seconds. 1 point seperates 2nd and 6th in the table. Each season we have new teams competing at the top. Last year huddersfield finished top, a decade ago they were relegated. Cas are 2nd and can still finish top, they celler dwellers last season. A good attrition rate of teams at the top is the sign of a vibrant competition.

If you don't like it you know where the door is.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:25 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

That's your problem, not the games.

Right now we are on the verge of one of the most exciting closely contested finishes and playoff series ever contested. There have been more draws then ever this season, with exciting games going down to the last seconds. 1 point seperates 2nd and 6th in the table. Each season we have new teams competing at the top. Last year huddersfield finished top, a decade ago they were relegated. Cas are 2nd and can still finish top, they celler dwellers last season. A good attrition rate of teams at the top is the sign of a vibrant competition.

If you don't like it you know where the door is.

To say we have new teams competing every year is stretching things a bit. Also, no matter how close the scores are, the quality and intensity is lacking. Back in pre SL days Wigan often only won the league by the smallest of margins, by points difference on at least one occasion IIRC. Finally, how do you know at this stage how close and exciting the playoffs will be? You may well be correct but I would contend that the fare we used to be served when our best players stayed at home and the very best Aussies and Kiwis came over here along with RU backs converting to the pro ranks was far more palatable than than this tripe, and the size of the crowds either then or now is irrelevant to that argument. But ,hey ho, someone like Suzy will dismiss this as the ramblings of an old git I suppose.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:57 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

That's your problem, not the games.

Right now we are on the verge of one of the most exciting closely contested finishes and playoff series ever contested. There have been more draws then ever this season, with exciting games going down to the last seconds. 1 point seperates 2nd and 6th in the table. Each season we have new teams competing at the top. Last year huddersfield finished top, a decade ago they were relegated. Cas are 2nd and can still finish top, they celler dwellers last season. A good attrition rate of teams at the top is the sign of a vibrant competition.

If you don't like it you know where the door is.

You need to wake up and look at the bigger picture, the season has been pointless and so has the previous 17, no one cares about winning the league because the Mickey Mouse club call is a poisoned chalice, teams are now playing to finish in the top eight not to win the league. The game is on it's knees and has been for a number of years. We can't attract top sponsors and we can no longer entice star players from either rugby union or Australia. I know where the door is and believe me there is a queue building.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:16 pm  

hatty wrote:

The game is on it's knees and has been for a number of years.

It was "on it's knees" when I started watching in 1990 and has been ever since if you listen to the average miserable RL fan.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:23 pm  

Suzy Banyon wrote:

It was "on it's knees" when I started watching in 1990 and has been ever since if you listen to the average miserable RL fan.

So you tell me in your own words what's good about the current game?

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:29 pm  

hatty wrote:

The current form has nothing to do with it, its the state of rugby league in general that i'm disillusioned about. I no longer have the desire to watch the game, which is something that i would never ever have thought i would hear myself saying. Sad but true.

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