: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:57 pm  

Mark1987 wrote:

But as I've said, show me the facts that show our pack isn't performing. We could sign a big Aussie and let Coley go, but what happens if they don't perform.

Coley = One year deal, = him plays for another again
Fielden = next year last year of contract has to perform to stay.
Feka = Great work, need a tiny bit more.
Prescott/O'Carroll, will only get better and better with time.
Mossop = Halfway tho next year, probably be pusking Prescott and O'Carroll for their prop position, they way he's going.

What facts are there to prove it?

Our props aren’t good enough to dominate other teams simple as. How many times have you walked away from a game this season and thought our four props were the difference in us winning a losing?

I can name you at least four games this season when they’ve not been good enough tho and it has cost us big time-Warrington away, Hull KR, Hudds & Wakefield first game of the season.

If we can’t get on top of teams in the forwards then it’s game over.

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:59 pm  

To be honest seems that players that would be ideal for us come of contract the end of next year and not 09, would have to struggle through again next year can we afford to write of another season?

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:05 pm  

Fill our team with great props, still doesn't mean we'll score, thats been our problem.

our 6 and 7 partnership does not work. We do not have a 2nd phase 85% of the time as we don't have a decent game reading FB. If signing an Aussie prop off reputation is the answer to some people, i see this club doomed.

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:09 pm  

Mark1987 wrote:

Fill our team with great props, still doesn't mean we'll score, thats been our problem.

our 6 and 7 partnership does not work. We do not have a 2nd phase 85% of the time as we don't have a decent game reading FB. If signing an Aussie prop off reputation is the answer to some people, i see this club doomed.

Guess we’ve just got to agree to disagree mate.

I can’t personally see how getting a new 1 is more important than a new prop as it’s not as a critical of a position imo.

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:09 pm  

Mark1987 wrote:

Fill our team with great props, still doesn't mean we'll score, thats been our problem.

our 6 and 7 partnership does not work. We do not have a 2nd phase 85% of the time as we don't have a decent game reading FB. If signing an Aussie prop off reputation is the answer to some people, i see this club doomed.

Most weeks you could have Johns and Lockyer but they would not have a platform to work from. Thank god IFL is looking at a Prop and a half and not listening to you!

For 90% of the last 2 years we have had little or no platform from the front 4. Not adding to this would not improve the situation what so ever.

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:12 pm  

Mark1987 wrote:

Fill our team with great props, still doesn't mean we'll score, thats been our problem.

our 6 and 7 partnership does not work. We do not have a 2nd phase 85% of the time as we don't have a decent game reading FB. If signing an Aussie prop off reputation is the answer to some people, i see this club doomed.

Mo isn't here anymore

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:14 pm  

Mark1987 wrote:

Next year, when we have the money from Fielden going to have any chance of bringing in two great props.

Next year, next year, next year..................I agree the Fielden money will open some doors and I'm willing to be patient, but many more are not, 2002 seems a long time ago now, we need a trophy soon, even a day out at Wembley will placate some, win or lose (preferably win !).

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:16 pm  

Mark1987 wrote:

If signing an Aussie prop off reputation is the answer to some people, i see this club doomed.

Well what do you sign them off if not reputation?

Their reputation playing at a high standard in the NRL or State of Origin or internationally suggests they add quality to teams, especially those of a lower standard that they've already played for.

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:24 pm  

Alex BP' wrote:

Well what do you sign them off if not reputation?

Their reputation playing at a high standard in the NRL or State of Origin or internationally suggests they add quality to teams, especially those of a lower standard that they've already played for.

It's like choosing a coach, you need someone with a proven track record, who knows how to win finals, is successful, is the top trophy winner in his league, coached at International level.........................someone like, err.........Brian Noble ?

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:29 pm  

It's also a case of not just reputation but actually looking at them now and evaluating there current form, and seeing whether that equates to the wage packet that there reputation has probably increased and whether they are still worth it.