That's the one.

To be fair I watched that rylands team for about 4/5 years as my son played in another rylands team in the same age group and there was only 3 or 4 I was gutted Warrington didn't sign(and one of them isn't even playing any more!). It was more to do with how well coached they were that impressed me. Oh, and the one lad saints didn't get ended up at Wigan, Ryan Brown. I believe he's doing pretty well(according to his dad!

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Saints don’t look the same side.

Are they still tired from a game that ended 5 weeks ago ?

They're so un-saints like it's untrue at the moment, lazy in the ruck lying on instead of physically dominating like they usually do.

They'll still be the side to beat come October, but worrying signs for them: Hudds were missing a lot of players weren't they?

I think it’s more the fact we played 79 minutes with 16 men and got hammered with the ref resulting in lots of tackles that we needed to make.

Still players to come back and that’s a big win under all the circumstances.

Incidentally Penrith have lost 2 already.

Lees did 80 mins there and over 65 tackles. Outstanding.

No they aren’t. Warringtons scholars are light years away from saints and Wigan! I can’t believe you even claimed that!! I know you like to think you are “well connected” but if you really were, you would know the standard of the players Warrington have in theirs scholars. Even though St Helens beat Wigan, Wigan have the absolute crop of the scholars and you shouldn’t read into St Helens beating them

Only caught the second half, did Lussick only come on with 10 mins left ?

That Senior try was a ridiculous decision, clear he dropped it on the the first reply.

Pretty much yeah.

And I agree I think he dropped it.

The other point is Lomax getting a green card. Unbelievable. I guarantee Ashworth will get charged for that. Lomax milks it and they are down to 12 yet we are penalised for how tough Lomax is

Couldn’t believe that! Cost me money as well (had Saints -3.5). The angle they used to show that he hadn’t gone in touch showed clear separation and they missed it and never went back!

As for Saints, they’ll be fine. They’re never the flashiest of watches but it’s even more turgid at the moment but these wins are massive. There are some creaking bodies in that squad and it feels like they’ll need a freshen up in the next couple of years but they’ve got more trophy challenges in them yet (sadly).

No Stu, I didn't go, I was hoping it would be shown live on Wigan t.v.
I've just seen the trys and Saints looked a bit bigger, their fullback looked very good, I'll watch the full game at some point. Didn't Saints sign four players from Wigan St, Judes?

It's always difficult with the scholars as they are U15 and U16 age groups and that can make a bid difference at this level.
I'm looking forward to the Wigan v Saints academy game on the 8th April at Robin Park and particularly the Farrimond v Robertson duel, both really exciting prospects.

Judes did put a Facebook post on recently, stating Saints signed four youngsters.