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| Quote Geoff="Geoff"Don't underestimate the value of cash, even if we can't spend it on players because of the cap. Our training facilities, and our back-room staff, for example, are the envy of the league, and all have to be paid for.'"
Yeah, but not with a once-in-a-generation player.
Sorry Geoff, I must disagree with you on this.
Letting Sam go would be a monumental blow to the Wigan fans. I'm sure IL realises that all the good will he's deservedly earned through making so many improvements to our club could be lost if we were to lose a lad of that calibre and not get something very good indeed in return. |
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"It would never have entered my head that Johnson would come over, but then a few months ago it would never have entered my head that Wigan could be induced to let Tomkins go before the end of his five year deal, let alone before the end of his sacrosanct first three years.
So it's a balancing act.
If New Zealand Warriors want Sam, they're gonna have to cough up for him - big time. And if I was in charge, it wouldn't be for cash. We've already got loads of cash, most of which we're not allowed to spend anyway. Likewise, I wouldn't even entertain the idea of getting a bunch of replacement nobodies in exchange for our hottest property. It's like for like, or no deal at all - and NZ Warriors can bugger off.
Exactly the same would apply to Saracens, though I think they'd have even less chance, as there's no one at all on their books who I'd be remotely interested in.
As I say, that's if I was in charge.'"
If the coaching staff are happy with any players offered all well and good but how could you be fully satisfied with anybody be Tomkins replacement unless it was Slater or Inglis?
Ultimately cash may be the best thing for us. We can then target our own choices as replacements for cash fees rather then having to make do. If Union offer a million quid(the figure I'd want) but NRL teams won't match it (and they won't come near) then we have to look after number one and take it.
Give us a £1m to play with and if I were in charge I'd have cash offers on the table for Johnny Lomax, Daryl Clarke and Eorl Crabtree straight away. Cash would give us that freedom to pick who we want rather then being fed magic beans from the NRL. |
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Sean Long has tweeted that he has handed in his notice at Salford.
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| Quote dany1979="dany1979"Sean Long has tweeted that he has handed in his notice at Salford.'"
MEN saying widely expected to sign on at wigan to coach u19's. |
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| Quote JTB="JTB"www.loverugbyleague.com/news_11708-long-quits-as-salford-assistant-coach.html'"
Mixed feelings from me if that was the case.
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A few more players being linked with a move to Aus...
[urlhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/4894042/Ryan-Atkins-targeted-by-rugby-union-sides.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed[/url
I've also seen a few tweets from "in the know" Aussies who reckon Samkins will defo be in the NRL next season.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"If the coaching staff are happy with any players offered all well and good but how could you be fully satisfied with anybody be Tomkins replacement unless it was Slater or Inglis?
Ultimately cash may be the best thing for us. We can then target our own choices as replacements for cash fees rather then having to make do. If Union offer a million quid(the figure I'd want) but NRL teams won't match it (and they won't come near) then we have to look after number one and take it.
Give us a £1m to play with and if I were in charge I'd have cash offers on the table for Johnny Lomax, Daryl Clarke and Eorl Crabtree straight away. Cash would give us that freedom to pick who we want rather then being fed magic beans from the NRL.'"
I honestly believe that losing Tomkins mid-contract would be akin to losing Hanley mid-contract. Not because Sam is as good as Ellery was - he isn't yet. But because he's the most exciting player we've had at Wigan in a generation, and he's not even reached his prime yet - plus almost all our attacking moves are built around him
Sam isn't just another good player who we can learn to live without if we get some sparkling new changing rooms in return. Or even if we get a wad of cash to spend on new players, because prising the likes of Crabtree, Lomax etc away from their current clubs could take forever, if it ever happens.
I can only speak for myself here, but knowing how devastating this loss would be to the Wigan fans - especially after we were promised Sam would stay for at least three years - then I would demand like for like in player terms - two or maybe three current NZ or Aus internationals, and if the buyers don't like it they can wait until Sam's contract runs out, even if that means he sits on the bench sulking, in the meantime.
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Apparently we'd be interested in him, but, only in a part time role. Not sure whether he would take that up. Could well see him going back to Saints.
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Long by all accounts did a top job at Salford with their backline. I'd have him working with George Williams and Ryan Hampshire everyday along with Deacon and Harris. Three of the best halfbacks Super league has ever produced, what a fantastic array of knowledge and experience for our young lads to learn from.
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| Quote cadoo="cadoo"a fantastic array of knowledge and experience for our young lads to learn from.'"
If that's all he were to bring then maybe, but has his general attitude improved at all? I'd not like to think our juniors were being coached by a Stains agent who could bring "Booze, Brawls, Sex and Scandal" over the lump. |
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