Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:02 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

At the end of the day the culture at the club is set by the head coach.

All the players and coaches essentially report into Wane and he's head honcho.

Long will fit into that system or he'll be gone. The players will buy into the 100% ethos set by Wane and the senior players and if not and again they will be gone.

Wigan must have seen something in Longy that they like. I'm happy with that as I know for a fact there will be no inch given if he steps out of line.

Nothing ventured nothing gained as they say.

Yes very true after all how many here were disgusted we were linked with Iestyn Harris a few months before he joined us. Some ahh i remember we got him for free so we did not take Paul Sculthorpe argument etc. And those 2 crap players we got from The Crusaders Dudson and Flower both awful. Some people and its the same ones who now moan at the Long link do end up looking stupid more often than not.

Great players is no guarantee of becoming a great coach but he must have something about him for both Us and Saints looking at giving him a job.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:03 am  

BackrowSaint wrote:

When? He hadn't signed anything yesterday.

He did not just walk out of Salford he has a job somewhere or he has truly lost the plot.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:38 am  

tank123 wrote:

Yes very true after all how many here were disgusted we were linked with Iestyn Harris a few months before he joined us. Some ahh i remember we got him for free so we did not take Paul Sculthorpe argument etc. And those 2 crap players we got from The Crusaders Dudson and Flower both awful. Some people and its the same ones who now moan at the Long link do end up looking stupid more often than not.

Great players is no guarantee of becoming a great coach but he must have something about him for both Us and Saints looking at giving him a job.

Spot on.

I also think it's worth out pointing out what a coaches job is.

A coach is someone that sets standards for the team but doesn't have to follow them himself. If a coach says no alcohol the night before the game he's not talking about himself or his back room staff he's talking about the guys who have to play the next day. If the coach sets a curfew of 10pm it doesn't apply to him but only to the players.

You can't also judge a coach on the lifestyle he lived during his players. Our very own Wane wasn't a model pro but it hasn't stopped him setting the highest of standards when it comes to what the current team have to adhere to. Heck many of the worlds great coaches weren't even that good players. Look at football and guys like Jose or Ferguson!

The job of the coach is to bring out the best in the players. If Long can do this then i'll be happy.

That being said there are always barriers that you don't cross and if he's acting like a d head in town, getting into fights and arrested he's going to be sacked.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:09 pm  

tank123 wrote:

He did not just walk out of Salford he has a job somewhere or he has truly lost the plot.

He's got offers so he's guaranteed a job somewhere, I do think that will be Wigan. However, as of yesterday nothing had been signed.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:55 pm  

Vectrabeast wrote:

I don't see the irony??

So the head coach is bagged unfairly on here for a fortnight earlier this season by a select few (to the point the thread was locked as things were getting near to the bone) without a shred of evidence whatsoever, just heresay.

Now compare that to a guy charged with an offence and awaiting a court date.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:58 pm  

tank123 wrote:

He did not just walk out of Salford he has a job somewhere or he has truly lost the plot.

Or he got sacked.

Nobby is hardly his biggest fan.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:04 pm  

tank123 wrote:

Yes very true after all how many here were disgusted we were linked with Iestyn Harris a few months before he joined us. Some ahh i remember we got him for free so we did not take Paul Sculthorpe argument etc. And those 2 crap players we got from The Crusaders Dudson and Flower both awful. Some people and its the same ones who now moan at the Long link do end up looking stupid more often than not.

There's a big difference between wary of signing guys because they are unproven as players or coaches and being wary of signing a guy because he has a track record for being an absolute kn0bhead.

We've just got rid of one. Do we really want to appoint another one - and give him a position of power and influence?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:42 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

Or he got sacked.

Nobby is hardly his biggest fan.

Wasn't sacked but was told that he wasn't part of nobbys plans

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:45 pm  

MattyB wrote:

So the head coach is bagged unfairly on here for a fortnight earlier this season by a select few (to the point the thread was locked as things were getting near to the bone) without a shred of evidence whatsoever, just heresay.

Now compare that to a guy charged with an offence and awaiting a court date.

Sorry, I still don't see the irony? The two are totally different subjects, one of which hasn't been mentioned until now. I stated that long was innocent until proven guilty.......am I wrong??

How about discussing the matter in hand instead of just picking at my posts?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:53 pm  

MattyB wrote:

So the head coach is bagged unfairly on here for a fortnight earlier this season by a select few (to the point the thread was locked as things were getting near to the bone) without a shred of evidence whatsoever, just heresay.

Now compare that to a guy charged with an offence and awaiting a court date.

You know you can't question VB... His word is law.