[JTB]

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:54 pm  

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:07 pm  

Vicki_w wrote:

What's your alternative then? Either we exercise our votes and elect a governing body (whether by voting for candidates whose policies/personalities we can associate with or by standing ourselves if we can't find one that suits us) or we don't have a vote at all and end up like North Korea or something.

By not voting, all you've done is remain non-commital to your 'they all **** us over anyway' standpoint by not electing an alternative. You have essentially just allowed it to happen/allowed whoever it is to 'get away' with it.

i dont vote because i dont think whatever party is elected anything would change

we'd still get taxed to death

petrol would still be sky high as would all other things cigs,beer etc

it would be a case of same s**t different guy

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:28 pm  

Kench Lucas wrote:

i dont vote because i dont think whatever party is elected anything would change

we'd still get taxed to death

petrol would still be sky high as would all other things cigs,beer etc

it would be a case of same s**t different guy

This 100%

All everyone who votes is choosing what toff screws us over

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:43 pm  

But you can't really complain about stuff if you don't get off your ass and do something about it - if you feel strongly about high taxes or whatever, then vote for someone whose policy is different to encourage a positive change. For the EU elections last week there was enough choice on the ballot paper to keep everyone happy, from the far right to the far left and plenty in between. And if you don't like any of them, stand yourself.

I think the 'they're all the same' argument is pretty naive and ill-informed - if I'm not happy with the person I voted for last time, I vote for someone different next time to get them out of office, as is the general idea. If nobody voted, nothing would ever change (or even stand a chance of doing so).

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:52 pm  

Changing the subject slightly.

anyone noticed how much Cricket gets covered on SKy sports news?. every single boring incident gets covered in great detail all bleeding day long. does my heed in

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:59 pm  

Vicki_w wrote:

But you can't really complain about stuff if you don't get off your ass and do something about it - if you feel strongly about high taxes or whatever, then vote for someone whose policy is different to encourage a positive change. For the EU elections last week there was enough choice on the ballot paper to keep everyone happy, from the far right to the far left and plenty in between. And if you don't like any of them, stand yourself.

I think the 'they're all the same' argument is pretty naive and ill-informed - if I'm not happy with the person I voted for last time, I vote for someone different next time to get them out of office, as is the general idea. If nobody voted, nothing would ever change (or even stand a chance of doing so).

Does it really anyway?

It's all the same people all the time cause the whole system is benter than a nine bob note i just leave them to it myself and i'm sure quite a few people do tbh

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:51 pm  

nikos wrote:

Any ignorant fools on here voted BNP?

Cos its people like you that let Hitler steal power in Germany

It's a sad reflection of politics in this country that the BNP have received such a high number of votes, a lot of people have lost faith in Westminster. Whilst I will never vote for a bunch of pricks like the BNP, I can understand why people use it as a protest vote. It's about time the major political parties woke up and acted in the best interests of their electorate, that is a democracy.

I personally didn't vote. I couldn't bring myself to vote for Labour after recent events, but IMO there is no-one who could do a better job than them. Voting would be giving my approval to one of them and none of them are worth it. Very sad times

[Pemps]

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:11 pm  

Orrell Lad wrote:

It's a sad reflection of politics in this country that the BNP have received such a high number of votes, a lot of people have lost faith in Westminster. Whilst I will never vote for a bunch of pricks like the BNP, I can understand why people use it as a protest vote. It's about time the major political parties woke up and acted in the best interests of their electorate, that is a democracy.

I personally didn't vote. I couldn't bring myself to vote for Labour after recent events, but IMO there is no-one who could do a better job than them. Voting would be giving my approval to one of them and none of them are worth it. Very sad times

But it's because of people like you, and me , that the BNP have got in. It's not a mistake I'll be making again.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:17 pm  

Pemps wrote:

But it's because of people like you, and me , that the BNP have got in. It's not a mistake I'll be making again.

If most sensible people who perhaps didnt vote this time, use this as a lesson why they should, then it will not be a problem again.

FWIW, Vicki is pretty much right about the rest.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:33 pm  

AJ wrote:

If most sensible people who perhaps didnt vote this time, use this as a lesson why they should, then it will not be a problem again.

FWIW, Vicki is pretty much right about the rest.

My boss didn't vote and she was saying today how horrified she was that she'd contributed to the BNP success - she's another one who won't forget next time. It just goes to show what complacency can lead to.

king warrior wrote:

i just leave them to it myself and i'm sure quite a few people do tbh

Yep, hence we now have two BNP MEPs.