: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:38 pm  

"NickyKiss"]It will go against what he said the other day but would come as little suprise

I don't want us to sign Chris Bailey but because I have no say on it if he is signed then I would give him a chance.

P.S. What did I say the other day?

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:42 pm  

I would rather find some consistancy in the team and play Tomkins and Leuluai at 6 and 7 than sign Bailey. If we sign him though I would want McIlorum sent out on loan.

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:46 pm  

odemwingie wrote:

I would rather find some consistancy in the team and play Tomkins and Leuluai at 6 and 7 than sign Bailey. If we sign him though I would want McIlorum sent out on loan.

Bailey is not good enough to take the place of McIlurom in the squad or the starting side.

A shocking signing if true IMO

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:49 pm  

wiganstripleL wrote:

if were bringing in c.bailey would that mean 1 oversea's player would have to leave?? carmont maybe??

I'm totally stumped on our overseas signings positions.

If we sign Chris Bailey and keep Phil on and thats means we've no spots left to bring in the prop we need first and foremost the signing of Bailey would seem another shocking call.

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:55 pm  

This makes me seriously worried about our signings. We have missed out on too many players IMO.

Briscoe
Dobson
Carvell

Could of all been playing for us had we had some sense. Those 3 players would improve our line up straight away.

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:56 pm  

cadoo wrote:

So both ways we can't win. We don't have a chairman who can find the balance.

If you regard signing up all our best youngsters on much better contracts, fast-tracking the next generation as well, and still having enough cash to enlarge the first team squad to the point where even an injury crisis like the current one doesn't stop us winning matches as a defeat, then you're right.

I however don't regard it that way.

Signing megastars who we can't really afford got us in very serious trouble last time (especially when they don't always perform - Fielden for example). A more prudent approach is surely to be welcomed?

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:56 pm  

Well no need to panic yet regarding the signing of either Leuluai's brother or Bailey's brother, but like were stating there in positions were reasonably strong in plus there players that aren't actually that good, so for me don't sign either. Like Lenegan states were after "Top Quality" players and neither of these two fall into that category, although I suppose Lenegan's perception of top quality may differ from mine and yours and that's what worry's me, the phrase cheap as chips springs to mind.

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:59 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

Well no need to panic yet regarding the signing of either Leuluai's brother or Bailey's brother, but like were stating there in positions were reasonably strong in plus there players that aren't actually that good, so for me don't sign either. Like Lenegan states were after "Top Quality" players and neither of these two fall into that category, although I suppose Lenegan's perception of top quality may differ from mine and yours and that's what worry's me, the phrase cheap as chips springs to mind.

It's not necessarily his perception of quality that differs from yours. It's more likely his perception of Wigan's wage bill and how close it is to busting the salary cap.

I think you'd probably agree that he's definitely better qualified than you to make a judgement call on the basis of that.

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:10 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

It's not necessarily his perception of quality that differs from yours. It's more likely his perception of Wigan's wage bill and how close it is to busting the salary cap.

I think you'd probably agree that he's definitely better qualified than you to make a judgement call on the basis of that.

Well he is going to be better placed at fitting people within the salary cap than I am for the simple reason that he has the facts and figures and runs the club, yet his perception of quality is still to be proved by the signings he makes. Why Lenegan came out and stated the only players I will sign will be "Top quality" talk about hanging yourself, he's lifted peoples expectations for who may join us next year by making that comment and I hope he sticks to it and does as he says.

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:24 pm  

I know lots of people might not agree with me on this. But....

If we are willing to go and pay a transfer fee to get Chris Bailey out of his contract to be our new halfback then I would actually like to see us go out and try and get a British halfback who is currently under contract and bid for them instead.

My personal choice would be Danny Brough. After seeing him playing against Saints he kicked them to death. He is a big talker and always seems to be shouting orders to the team, again along with his very good kicking game I think he would be an very complementary scrum half to play alongside Tomkins.
Brough would relieve alot of the pressure of organising and kicking from Tomkins while still allowing him to play his own game with Brough having a different style to Tomkins.

This would obviously mean Leuluai playing as a number 9 (and consequently McIllorum going on load etc)

Im not saying Brough would be the 1st choice Id like the team to go after for a halfback but if were going to pay a transfer fee on an overseas player, why not pay one for a British player instead.