I would be delighted to win either the CC or the SL. But for me the CC has lost its shine for me simply because of the luck of the draw. It seems like we haven't had a really big home tie for years and away the big games seem to have all been Leeds. Add to that the fact that we have failed miserably in our last 2 semis. I know though that the shine will return if we compete in the big games.

Having said that though I have always thought that more should be done to promote the Semi Finals as marque events in the RL calendar and having them so close to the final is ridiculous. Also why did we stop introducing the players one by one in the final?

I note today the general lack of excitement about the FA Cup Final. The Stoke chairman was interviewed on TV and looked very fed up that so much attention was being paid to the Man U game.

In terms of its big Cup competition, is football suffering the same problem as Rugby League?

Looks that way to me.

There are obvious paralell's and it's syptomatic of the same problem, if you want to call it a problem i.e. a breakaway top tier league fuelled by TV money going up against the sport's governing body and it's flagship knock-out competition. I don't think that Super League views the CC with the same disdain as the Premier League seems to view the FA Cup but it does appear that both leagues think that they are in competition with their corresponding governing bodies (the RFL and FA respectively), as opposed to working alongside them

Having Wire constantly droaning 'WEMBELEEEEEEEEEY......WEMBELEEEEEEY.....' at matches has ruined it for me.

Be interesting to read the views on here if you got there with it not being a big deal and all that.

Seem to remember it getting abit kiddy on here when you drew Catalan in the semi's

In all honestly, you are the reason i dont care about the CC anymore.

Knowing that such a poor team were capable of winning it devalued it greatly.

Thanks a bunch...

The poor team that beat you on the way in 2009?
or the poor team that beat the then current league champions in the 2010 final?

or that poor team you have only managed to beat 6 times out of the last 17 meetings and in that your last meaningfull victory was in febuary 2010 by a sultry 2 points

That's the one. The one that has never won a playoff game.

Think they've won one.

How predictable that this is slowly turning into another Wigan v Wire slanging match.

Wire fans need to stop being so senstive about accusations that the CC is easier to win than the Grand Final. It's quite obvious that it is, and there's no real argument to the contrary. That doesn't detract from the glory and honour of winning the CC, or having a great day at Wembley.

But the Cup is still of waning interest - not the final itself, but the overall concept. The purpose of this thread was not to decry Wire's achievement in winning it for the last two years, but to investigate why it's no longer the biggest fixture in the calender and maybe discuss possible solutions to that.

Agree with most of what you say here, I'd just change the "socialist tinted" bit to "condescending tw*ts"

I'd definitely give the CC to Sky but then make BBC show it in it's entirety, including the build up, the day after.