Re: When did it start to go wrong? : Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:23 pm  

Blake Green gone - replaced by a kid.
Sam Tomkins gone - replaced by Calamity Bowen.
Shaun O'Loughlin injured. Average replacement.
Joe Burgess leaving - less committed
Matty Smith - Not having a decent stand-off is exposing him as an average player
Josh Charnley - Going through a bad spell. Not worth his place.
Liam Farrell - As above.

That's around half the starting side that isn't up to it at the moment. Little wonder we cant live with even average sides at the moment.

Re: When did it start to go wrong? : Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:35 pm  

Fridays woeful Wigan performance was one of the worst i have ever seen your club put in during the SL era, Although I thought that we were outstanding and you copped the backlash for our recent defeats

IMO Wigan are far too reliant on O'Loughlin and he sadly has a body that isn't up to the rigors of week to week footy and clearly misses more games than he plays, Is his retirement imminent?

Charnley looked like a turnstile in defense and i lost count of the number of tackles that he missed, Your fans were rating him as one of the worlds best wingers not so long ago, He's not fit to lace Carney,Makinson or Hall's boots

Something clearly isn't right at your club presently and it urgently needs sorting out, I suspect that your players resent the control freak that is Shaun Wane?

Re: When did it start to go wrong? : Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:49 pm  

Trouble Darn T Lane wrote:

Fridays woeful Wigan performance was one of the worst i have ever seen your club put in during the SL era

You must have missed the Ian Millward era.

Re: When did it start to go wrong? : Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:52 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

:shock: You must have missed the Ian Millward era.

Re: When did it start to go wrong? : Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:09 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

:shock: You must have missed the Ian Millward era.

You had some shocking performances under Millward's stewardship just as we did

You also had some shocking ones in 2005 too like when the Whino's beat you 70-0

Re: When did it start to go wrong? : Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:25 pm  

Trouble Darn T Lane wrote:

You had some shocking performances under Millward's stewardship just as we did

You also had some shocking ones in 2005 too like when the Whino's beat you 70-0

That was also under Millward's stewardship! As was the 75-0 against Saints the week after.

Re: When did it start to go wrong? : Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:27 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

That was also under Millward's stewardship! As was the 75-0 against Saints the week after.

That was a bad era then

Re: When did it start to go wrong? : Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:42 pm  

Trouble Darn T Lane wrote:

That was a bad era then

10 months is hardly an era.

Re: When did it start to go wrong? : Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:54 am  

Finfin wrote:

10 months is hardly an era.

it felt like 1

Re: When did it start to go wrong? : Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:57 pm  

MattyB wrote:

Not that long ago we were quite comfortably the team to beat in SL. Reigning champions, best attack, best defence. Of course we eased off towards the back end of the season as usual giving away the shield. However we were at Old Trafford yet again ready to take the crown away from our bitter rivals. They weren't that confident so much so they failed to sell thousands of their tickets in week leading up to the final.

Around the same time Shaun Wane had managed to shrug off his 'ape' jibes, hell....even on the VT forum he was being lined up as the next National Coach

Then....

2nd October 2014

SKY decided to show 'Warriors down under' and it all came crashing down.
I watched it once, found it horrendous. As cringing as the Alex Murphy post match swear fest back in the early eighties. His dressing room comments should have stayed there! He came across as thuggish and very limited.

At the time I hoped it would spur us onto victory regardless.

And then the GF.........

and it's been downhill since then!

Every single game this season (London Skolars apart) Wigan have not performed well), I include Brisbane in that as well. Defensively sound yes but average in attack!


Long weeks & months ahead. Oh well, theres always the cup!

Love the reference to Saints failing to sell tickets for the GF - clearly no memory of the Wigan end at Murrayfield when you thought you'd lose. Still that's the beauty of sport.

I think there were 3 instances last year which are now coming home to roost. Firstly Wane's comments before the Cas cup match fired them up and they showed how to beat you.

Then Nathan Brown really wound him up after the DW match even to the surprise of Saints fans. It also subtly or perhaps not began to put pressure on referees.

Finally who ever let the Sky documentary be made and then Flowers melt down sealed what's happening now. Teams are facing up to the aggression and Wigan's discipline is letting them down.

However you're good enough to change the plan eventually and bounce back. Still expect to see you in the play offs......