Re: Leeds (H) : Fri May 12, 2023 11:34 pm  

Been holding back on commenting to calm down because you don’t want to be too emotional with your reaction and start bagging individuals, when the whole side have been so poor.

It was a pathetic second half but it would seem a total freak when you compare it to pretty much anything we’ve produced in many years. The worry is how much it impacts on confidence next week, both from our side and the Leeds side. We’ve certainly made that game far harder for ourselves but better that sort of ‘wheels falling off job’ came this week than next. I’m going with Peet being a genius and playing everyone with his version of rope a dope

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 2:31 am  

We didn't make the most of our chances in the first half, but Shorrocks had done OK, he'd already got a try-assist (I thought), and he threw that nice long pass to Smith, and then he he threw it straight to Newman, and it all went South from there. And that second half was just awful, and Cust (I assume neither he or Hampshire were felt to be fully fit?) offered nothing.

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 2:45 am  

i thought Cam Smith was the best player on the field.

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 4:32 am  

jonh wrote:

I’ve not seen the game.

Just got in and seen the result.


I may be way off the mark with this, but I still think people do not understand what players like Singleton, Cooper and Ellis bring to the table.

Will watch it tomorrow.

Spot on.

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 4:42 am  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

You’re a one man team and I’ve said this for the past couple of seasons. I know you will all come back with “we beat saints this season” which you did because saints bombed the chances they had to win the game easily. Peet is woefully out of his depth . He comes across as a nice guy but he’s not a top tier coach

It would be easy to say Peet isn’t up to it after that performance. It would have been easy to say Peet is the best coach we’ve had since Mags after the Saints win. Both would have been fickle.

We’re not at full strength by some stretch and I think that’s beginning to haunt us with some players playing in positions they’re just not suited to and actually hindering the team as a by product. Perhaps it’s out of necessity or a tactical plan, but it didn’t work v Hull and it’s gone dramatically wrong v Leeds.

That doesn’t mean Peet isn’t up to it, he got it wrong and I can live with that so long as we learn from it and change it. I back Peet to succeed at Wigan and I doubt you’ll find many saying different at this point.

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 5:47 am  

100% Warrior wrote:

It would be easy to say Peet isn’t up to it after that performance. It would have been easy to say Peet is the best coach we’ve had since Mags after the Saints win. Both would have been fickle.

We’re not at full strength by some stretch and I think that’s beginning to haunt us with some players playing in positions they’re just not suited to and actually hindering the team as a by product. Perhaps it’s out of necessity or a tactical plan, but it didn’t work v Hull and it’s gone dramatically wrong v Leeds.

That doesn’t mean Peet isn’t up to it, he got it wrong and I can live with that so long as we learn from it and change it. I back Peet to succeed at Wigan and I doubt you’ll find many saying different at this point.

I wouldn’t respond to him, he’s just wanting a bite.

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 7:42 am  

jonh wrote:

I’ve not seen the game.

Just got in and seen the result.


I may be way off the mark with this, but I still think people do not understand what players like Singleton, Cooper and Ellis bring to the table.

Will watch it tomorrow.

And Marshy and Field that makes 5 players out includes to strike weapons that are as good if not better than any in the league.
We lost to a better team and are still second in the league,yet some fans from other teams of which are lower than us on the table like to point out how bad we are,makes me laugh that.
In Peet I trust.

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 7:44 am  

An absolute freak of a performance and result, we gave them 24 points! Peet was right in his post match to call it out for what it was but remain calm.

Two criticisms, I have though, of the coaching team are the selection of Cust and lack of faith in youngsters. We're doing it tough at the minute with injuries but we're persisting with tinkering with players in alien positions. Hill and Nsemba did ok last week (although v limited minutes), so play them. Isn't the mentality supposed to be 'next man up'?!

Cust is done here, unfortunately. The lad isn't fit and looks like he's running in treacle. His confidence is shot.

For next week, I don't think there's any returnees so we have to go IMO;

French
Miski King Wardle Thornley
Hampshire Smith
Byrne Powell Smithies
Farrell Isa
Shorrocks

Havard Hill O'Neill KPP

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 7:49 am  

CobraCraig wrote:

I wouldn’t respond to him, he’s just wanting a bite.

Oh I know. Common sense often weakens the bait

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 7:54 am  

LewCharnock wrote:

An absolute freak of a performance and result, we gave them 24 points! Peet was right in his post match to call it out for what it was but remain calm.

Two criticisms, I have though, of the coaching team are the selection of Cust and lack of faith in youngsters. We're doing it tough at the minute with injuries but we're persisting with tinkering with players in alien positions. Hill and Nsemba did ok last week (although v limited minutes), so play them. Isn't the mentality supposed to be 'next man up'?!

Cust is done here, unfortunately. The lad isn't fit and looks like he's running in treacle. His confidence is shot.

For next week, I don't think there's any returnees so we have to go IMO;

French
Miski King Wardle Thornley
Hampshire Smith
Byrne Powell Smithies
Farrell Isa
Shorrocks

Havard Hill O'Neill KPP

I don’t think Cust is done, just he’s being played all wrong. It’s obvious his and Smith’s partnership doesn’t work but I do think he could be better utilised at 9 or 13. At 13 it gives us an extra ball player and options where as Smithies - and I don’t wish to sound critical because I like him, just isn’t that. He’s a tough nut but he’s not a 13. He’s a back rower destined for the front row IMO.

I’d go

French
Miski King Wardle Thornley
Hampshire Smith
Havard Powell Bryne
Smithies Farrell
Cust

Isa
KPP
O’Neill
Mago

Interchangeability in the back row for front row and a hooking option with Powell considered for the halves. I think we’re dearly missing Singleton/Cooper/Ellis and will look far better when 2 out of the 3 are back.