Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:51 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

Yet made a ton of assists in his last year? I don't think he is what we need unless we are losing a centre (I presume we must be in order to fit him under the cap), but he's still a very good player. The game is hardly awash with top centres.

MMMMMM I wonder which centre he will be replacing, this one really does take some thinking about

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:51 pm  

Cherry_Warrior wrote:

Deep joy. A centre who cant pass, tackle or make a break. Just what the doctor ordered. We will walk the league now.

This is a wind up right? He might not be the greatest player we've had, but come on, this guy has played for England, won a Grand Final and been coveted by a side in the NRL.

Do you think you might be over reacting slightly because the facts suggest you might be?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:54 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

Surely he has to be right eventually.....

Just needs to add:

Gelling will be back after Christmas

And

Gelling signs contract extension

Then all bases are covered.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:21 pm  

The Whiffy Kipper wrote:

Gelling Will NOT be back

Your obviously far better informed than myself then. I shall leave the facts to quieten you down when squad numbers are released.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:04 pm  

In his last season with us, England centre Dan Sarginson had a hell of a GF and posted the following stats.

530 Carries (most in SL)
48 Offloads (3rd highest in SL)
3561 metres made (6th highest in SL)

Escare
Davies (Manfredi)
Gildart
Sarginson
Burgess
Williams
Tomkins

That’s a backline with serious speed. All we need is to play more expansive rugby and find a few gaps. If we can stay fit, I’m happy with this to be honest.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:58 pm  

That's a good back line.
How we end up out on the field is another matter.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:31 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

In his last season with us, England centre Dan Sarginson had a hell of a GF and posted the following stats.

530 Carries (most in SL)
48 Offloads (3rd highest in SL)
3561 metres made (6th highest in SL)

Escare
Davies (Manfredi)
Gildartss
Sarginson
Burgess
Williams
Tomkins

That’s a backline with serious speed. All we need is to play more expansive rugby and find a few gaps. If we can stay fit, I’m happy with this to be honest.

A back line with no recognised goal kicker and with an exceptionally limited kicking game. SW seem to think these pretty basic skills aren't required when in fact they should be a prerequisite for the job.
Sorry for the negativity but the pack is lightweight in size and ability plus the backs are used sparingly in attack but are good for making the "hard yards"
The saving grace could be if ST has got his head out of his arris and starts performing like a rugby player rather than a prima donna. ST for me probably has more natural ability than any other SL player but it will be 5 years since we saw him demonstrate that on a regular basis rather than a cameo once or twice a season.
He needs to take over the mantle from SOL and tell SW to buggier off with the tripe we have served up in the last 4 years and let him rule the roost on the field.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:41 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

A back line with no recognised goal kicker and with an exceptionally limited kicking game. SW seem to think these pretty basic skills aren't required when in fact they should be a prerequisite for the job.
Sorry for the negativity but the pack is lightweight in size and ability plus the backs are used sparingly in attack but are good for making the "hard yards"
The saving grace could be if ST has got his head out of his arris and starts performing like a rugby player rather than a prima donna. ST for me probably has more natural ability than any other SL player but it will be 5 years since we saw him demonstrate that on a regular basis rather than a cameo once or twice a season.
He needs to take over the mantle from SOL and tell SW to buggier off with the tripe we have served up in the last 4 years and let him rule the roost on the field.

Itchy you can’t just go out and sign a recognised goal kicker. They have to be a better player than the one they’ll replace first and foremost. If you can tell me a realistic target that fits the bill I’m all ears.

SW clearly recognises the need to improve our kicking, hence Charlie Hodgson’s appointment.

As for ST, the lad hasn’t had a preseason for 9 years and has missed the best part of 2 years with very serious injuries. He’s a human being, not a machine, give him a break!

If he’s doesn’t deliver next season then I’d be critical because there can be no excuse. We’ve had enough negativity to last us a lifetime (not just from you) and I reckon it’s time to move forward. Pre-season games are not far off so it’s time to get behind the club and be positive. After all, tis the season of good will etc.....

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:45 pm  

RichieS wrote:

Your obviously far better informed than myself then. I shall leave the facts to quieten you down when squad numbers are released.

He may be in the squad but he has declared himself unavailable!

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:28 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Itchy you can’t just go out and sign a recognised goal kicker. They have to be a better player than the one they’ll replace first and foremost. If you can tell me a realistic target that fits the bill I’m all ears.

SW clearly recognises the need to improve our kicking, hence Charlie Hodgson’s appointment.

As for ST, the lad hasn’t had a preseason for 9 years and has missed the best part of 2 years with very serious injuries. He’s a human being, not a machine, give him a break!

If he’s doesn’t deliver next season then I’d be critical because there can be no excuse. We’ve had enough negativity to last us a lifetime (not just from you) and I reckon it’s time to move forward. Pre-season games are not far off so it’s time to get behind the club and be positive. After all, tis the season of good will etc.....

Pat Richards left in 2013 and it's 2018 in less than 3 weeks how long do you need to find a replacement? It's either complacency or ineptness I will leave you to decide.
I am a big fan of ST but cameos once or twice a year are an insufficient payback for his payroll cost. Personally I would give him the captaincy in the hope that he of mature years now and he can kick on again and place his stamp on the style of game we play.
By the way the negativity is driven by the club with it's pretty useless performances on and off the pitch. Give the fans something to talk about, something to look forward to (NOT the game in Australia) and give us back a bit of pride back by playing something closely related to RL rather than the prissy, turgid shoite they have rolled out for the past 3 years then the negativity will decrease.
By the way not for one moment did I expect a major overhaul this season (it will in 2019 though) but ye gods Sarginson coming back after a year on the lash in Australia isn't what I expected either.
A Happy Christmas to you Bigred and your family