Re: Squad for Good Friday : Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:42 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

So you sack them? Same deal.

It doesn't matter who you replace them with, you replace them (or you just remove them and work with one less but obviously we aren't going to play with 12 are we)

No it isn't the same deal. You replace and recruit like for like.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:43 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Few players have been offered more slack than ZH over the years.

Maybe some of his coaches should have clamped down sooner and he'd be in a better place. Peet is bang on the money with this one IMOand that's not just because he'll miss the game (to be honest it's been quite a while since I've been impressed with him anyway - more steady eddie than gamebreaker these days).

Agreed mate. Zak has been pretty good for us this season though so he will be loss, no doubt, but so be it.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:44 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

No it isn't the same deal. You replace and recruit like for like.

But we can't necessarily do that mid season and certainly not for this one game. I'm guessing that is the plan going forward though.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:45 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

You can't instil a culture by choosing which games players are dropped for and which they aren't otherwise players have no need for discipline leading into a big game because they know they won't be dropped. This shows that no matter who you are (Zak is an obvious starter) and no matter what the game is, you f*** up and you're out. If we lose the game due to Zak being out (kicks or a poor performance from his replacement), I expect there will be a big thing in meetings about how Zak let his team mates down (something Madge was very big on) and that creates the culture that what you do as an individual has a direct impact on your team mates.

100% agree with the decision, and well done to the coach (who some think only got the job for his accent) on making it.

Top post that EG.

The only things I can add are that Hardaker has also let the club and the fans down.
Peet is quietly going about his business with a very professional approach out of the inner sanctum of the squad and he’s also showing that is what he expects within the squad. I find that refreshing and reassuring as the season progresses.

I’m very disappointed that Hardaker is not playing but I’m sure Halsall or Miski will do a capable job and will be fully supported by their teammates and coaches.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:50 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

But we can't necessarily do that mid season and certainly not for this one game. I'm guessing that is the plan going forward though.

Exactly, which is why you can't compare business with sport in a like-for-like way.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:53 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Exactly, which is why you can't compare business with sport in a like-for-like way.

Apart from when it suits i.e Williams moving to Wire. All we heard was "in the real world, people move for more money", or "stop looking at this like a fan, it's only business"...

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:15 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Apart from when it suits i.e Williams moving to Wire. All we heard was "in the real world, people move for more money", or "stop looking at this like a fan, it's only business"...

Not even remotely the same comparison to what we've been discussing, but OK.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:29 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Not even remotely the same comparison to what we've been discussing, but OK.

We'll that's convenient. It's either sport is different to the "real world" or it isn't.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:34 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

We'll that's convenient. It's either sport is different to the "real world" or it isn't.

The Sport of RL is different. There are emotional and generational ties some players have with clubs. Agree other players would just play for the highest bidder, but definitely not all……

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:48 am  

Shabino wrote:

Think a bit of slack might be needed with Zak. Isn’t he travelling over from Ponte? And he has a baby and we all know how you feel after a bad nights sleep…..

Maybe his 'slack' was his first instance of lateness (assuming the above in the thread is correct). Traffic can be a nightmare over the M62 but it was his decision to move back to Yorkshire. Maybe it was his second occurrance which has caused the club to act and nip in the bud.

Lets just hope we can see him out until the end of the season without any further disruption as he will be then free to choose another Yorkshire club closer to home.

Overall I've been happy with his attitude up until this week, other than the blip when he was first announced he's been a steady player for us. He needs to be squeaky clean from now until the end of the season so that he can bag himself a contract with good pay.