Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 8:01 am  

Cust at 13 may not be a bad shout especially when we're missing props and SRs so Smithies can move up.

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 8:51 am  

What keeps me awake at night is the fact that our next 2 or 3 head coaches are currently at the club, More of the same for the next decade I'm afraid, Jobs for the boys is alive and well at Wigan

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 8:52 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Cust at 13 may not be a bad shout especially when we're missing props and SRs so Smithies can move up.

Did you watch him trying to make tackles last night?

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 9:12 am  

Unfortunately the absolute sh*te show in the 2nd half will overshadow the lack of cutting edge edge and predictably our attack currently has.

We did all the work in the first half to have effectively won that game. Failing to score with the amount of dominance we had gave Leeds a golden ticket to take the game to us in the 2nd half.

We then start playing panicky football, Leeds target Smith and French combo - as it's the only thing we have at the moment and all of a sudden our lightweight / makeshift forward pack is grasping thin air.

Admittedly, regardless of who we had in the middle, we should have fronted up better, but I think Peet should take some criticism (for possibly the first time from me) in his team selection.

Bench of Brad and Cust - back from injury, while we are a number of props down already could look like complacency or poor judgement on his side. Asking KPP, Smithies, Shorrocks, an under performing Faz, hardworking but lightweight Isa, an underperfoming and limited game time Mago to be the pack pretty much is inviting Leeds at us.

The only bright spot is that we can't go into next week with such a poor selection again (can we?), and hopefully Leeds don't get quite so much the rub of the green, and our attitude is for more than 40 mins.

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 9:25 am  

Big Steve wrote:

Unfortunately the absolute sh*te show in the 2nd half will overshadow the lack of cutting edge edge and predictably our attack currently has.

We did all the work in the first half to have effectively won that game. Failing to score with the amount of dominance we had gave Leeds a golden ticket to take the game to us in the 2nd half.

We then start playing panicky football, Leeds target Smith and French combo - as it's the only thing we have at the moment and all of a sudden our lightweight / makeshift forward pack is grasping thin air.

Admittedly, regardless of who we had in the middle, we should have fronted up better, but I think Peet should take some criticism (for possibly the first time from me) in his team selection.

Bench of Brad and Cust - back from injury, while we are a number of props down already could look like complacency or poor judgement on his side. Asking KPP, Smithies, Shorrocks, an under performing Faz, hardworking but lightweight Isa, an underperfoming and limited game time Mago to be the pack pretty much is inviting Leeds at us.

The only bright spot is that we can't go into next week with such a poor selection again (can we?), and hopefully Leeds don't get quite so much the rub of the green, and our attitude is for more than 40 mins.

Leeds fan in peace.

I looked at the benches last night and just didn’t understand having a half and a 9 there. It gave me some confidence as we had four forwards on the bench (and that’s a rareity for Leeds we’ve had a winger on there most weeks…)

Ultimately I don’t know if it was the difference, as you had more than enough chance to put the game away in the first half, but it may have been a reflection of where energy went in the second half. It was a bit of a crazy game all round.

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 9:38 am  

One thing that I will say and I don't think this is an over reaction, is that we seem to have an inability, or lack of urgency (as a club) to fix things on the fly.

A few examples from previous seasons - Field getting injured in the 1st game in his 1st season at the club but he wasn't replaced. Burgess not being fit and having to suffer Clarke and Clubb. Why didn't we sign a prop? Lam was well out of his depth, but kept on until the end of the year and it all just fizzled out. A full season a couple of years back with Faz/Isa filling in at centre, with no hint of us rectifying it, despite having a powder puff pack and not much going on.

Now to this year - Cooper is out for the season. He's a massive loss on the field and, like others have pointed out, he was growing into a leadership role at the club too. Add in the loss of Bateman from an experience and leadership POV and it's obvious we need to get someone in.

Likewise, the attack is clunky and gone back. Briers has gone and it's not got the same zip. Just go and get Gleeson in as a coach. He's a proven coach with a good rep. Don't let everyone suffer out of misguided loyalty to "what we've got". We all want to see Peet succeed - so help him out.

As we've seen over the last month - confidence is hard won and easily lost. Once it's gone, then it's a big shift to get it back. We're half way through the season (ish). Freshen it up and don't let the season fizzle away into a "if only we didn't have those injuries".

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 9:50 am  

Agreed. We have a couple of obvious deficiencies and we should address these and we have an outstanding chance of having a great season.

Ignore them and 'trust our process' and we have an outside chance of having a great season.

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 9:53 am  

too soft, didnt want to roll their sleeves up, when it got too hard they shrank away, total lack of on field leadership

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 10:35 am  

Well in the cold light of day all I can say is that was absolute poop, never seen a team fold like that after the opposition gets a man sent off.

Re: Leeds (H) : Sat May 13, 2023 10:42 am  

PS, can't understand why Hampshire wasn't given a run in the reserves last night, bizarre not to get some minutes in his legs