Re: Squad for Leigh : Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:20 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I wonder if he was told about holding the line and not shooting out looking to put shots on. He has looked passive ever since the Wakey away game and in that game and ones before, I’d noticed him flying out of the line hunting for players but that seems to have been shelved. He looks to have gone from one extreme to the other but I think it all ties in with your point about a rest. I think he needs a couple of weeks out when the chance arises, just to freshen him up. Every player hits a dip at some point and I think he’ll be fine in the long run.

Quite possibly NK.

As I've said previously I do believe there's a player in there but when you see the impact Dupree had in that game or how Havard is making himself into one of the best in the league, both at a similar age, it does leave me feeling a little frustrated with him. He has the tools. He just doesn't seem to be getting the best out of them. I think he should be rested this week as we're playing a team with one eye on the final next week and with Dupree's addition we have enough up front not to miss him. Bring in Hill or Havard, if fit, and we're good in the front row. Alternatively, play KPP at prop and bring Nsemba/Shorrocks into the back row.

Do it this week and he'll get a 2 to 3 week break.

Re: Squad for Leigh : Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:32 pm  

Simba16 wrote:

He was a bit unlucky with the first try as Smithies was called offside by the ref and left a gap.

Smithies needed to give a penalty away. Staying back opened up the gap which Byrne couldn’t fill.

Re: Squad for Leigh : Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:26 pm  

Zig wrote:

Smithies needed to give a penalty away. Staying back opened up the gap which Byrne couldn’t fill.

You're probably right in hindsight Zig, but then hindsight is always right. He'd have copped plenty of stick if he'd deliberately given a penalty away as we would never have known that it actually saved a try.

I'm guessing he believed the gap would be covered as perhaps it might have been had Byrne been less passive.

In the end, there's a shared responsibility there though. Neither got it right.

Re: Squad for Leigh : Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:39 pm  

I would always have given the penalty away if I was defending in my own 10m.

Re: Squad for Leigh : Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:31 pm  

Give Hill more minutes now we have Dupree. I’d rather invest in his development than Byrne’s who has never shown any form of dominance of a number of games in his career. He should be the next out of the door like Partington was.

Re: Squad for Leigh : Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:11 pm  

TonyM19 wrote:

I would always have given the penalty away if I was defending in my own 10m.

Exactly. It is the penalty that Faz gave away that annoyed me.

Re: Squad for Leigh : Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:17 pm  

Talking of props running with vigour, I’m just watching Harvie Makin playing for Barrow and my word, he knows how to smash a ball up! Not the biggest but he’s causing all sorts of problems. Not seen a great deal of him before.

Re: Squad for Leigh : Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:35 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Talking of props running with vigour, I’m just watching Harvie Makin playing for Barrow and my word, he knows how to smash a ball up! Not the biggest but he’s causing all sorts of problems. Not seen a great deal of him before.

Played at Judes in the same team as Junior. This Judes team was almost unbeatable, I think they lost less than five games from the team being 7 to 16. Harvey has a good engine, not the biggest as you say. His dad Craig played at Widnes back in the 90's.

Re: Squad for Leigh : Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:40 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Talking of props running with vigour, I’m just watching Harvie Makin playing for Barrow and my word, he knows how to smash a ball up! Not the biggest but he’s causing all sorts of problems. Not seen a great deal of him before.

Aka Andy Platt.

Re: Squad for Leigh : Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:20 am  

DannyT wrote:

Give Hill more minutes now we have Dupree. I’d rather invest in his development than Byrne’s who has never shown any form of dominance of a number of games in his career. He should be the next out of the door like Partington was.

I personally don’t get the clamour to move Liam Byrne on. I think he is doing a solid job and went well on the weekend.

His development hasn’t moved on as much as I expected this year but let’s not forget he is still very young in Prop terms and also had a vastly reduced off season due to his involvement in the World Cup.

If we were to let him go at this stage I’m certain we would come to regret it in a couple of seasons time.