: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:54 pm  

Without knowing if there are players who are being disruptive (as claimed elsewhere).


Roberts
Phelps
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
Smith
Leuluai
Fielden
Riddell
Prescott
Hansen
O'Loughlin
Tomkins

Hock
Feka
Tomkins (S)
O'Carroll



The key Hooker/halfback interchange then takes care of itself. Hock and Feka, impact players off the bench.

Our best defensive pack from the start.

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:56 pm  

JTB wrote:

I'll bet good money that Noble won't drop Coley. He simply does not drop his senior players regardless of performance. Mathers is like Vaealiki all over again, you keep waiting and waiting for him to turn the corner for an 'Ah! That's why they signed him!' moment. It's NEVER going to come, he's terrified of anything that comes near him - ball, attackers, defenders the lot. He should be about 24th in the pecking order for a first team spot.

Indeed. One of three players who MUST go at the end of the season.

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:00 pm  

Let Noble pick the team thats what he gets paid for,and you lot should be happy to be paying him.

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:04 pm  

Mathers - Very nervous when the ball was kicked towards him and let the ball run out into touch rather than attempting to take it and run, making it harder for our side to break through the Wakefield defense and find any decent field position and seemed to be out of position in attack and loitered about too much.

Richards - Solid game but didn't see much of the ball.

Carmont - No real complaints other than his miscommunication with Richards when he went over the touch line when we had a decent amount of tackles left and good field position.

Phelps - Defensively he seemed to be caught out on quite a few occasions and left open holes for Wakefield to utilise.

Roberts - Was awful and very, very slow as well as out of position for a lot of Wakefield's attack which led to their tries, showed promise under the high bomb however.

Smith - Made a couple of decent openings for the side and kicked a 40/20 to give us field position but let himself down with numerous kicks down the right hand side which was covered effectively by Wakefield which made his gameplan predictable, showed promise though.

Leuluai - By far our most explosive player with ball in hand and moved very well to find himself gaps which gave him more breaks than any one else (I think!), not the best kicking game however.

Fielden - Poor, especially after the back end of last season he looked like the Fielden of old he struggled to power forward today and make life easier for the rest of the side.

Riddell - I thought he was very anonymous for his first game and although he made one decent kick in the game didn't take a stranglehold on it like I thought he might...early days however.

Paleaasina - Not as effective as he can be sometimes and I think that may be down to good defence from Wakefield and poor distribution from Wigan with the ball offered to Feka when he was in a static position.

Bailey - At fault for one of the breaks of Wakefield because he turns like a canal boat but good defence.

Hock - Apart from the blistering run at the end of the game he was poor today with a few handling errors.

O'Loughlin - Laughable in attack. Couldn't control the ball and lost it on numerous occasions but showed his usual form in defence.

O'Carroll - Our best prop today, made no errors AFAIK and made good yards.

Coley - Rubbish, gave away the ball and a penalty in a two minute spell and lost the ball on numerous occassions with very little go forward was our worst performer IMO.

J. Tomkins - Looked very lively and almost broke through a few times, got the try because his positional play is top notch, between him and Leuluai for MOTM in our team.

Hansen - Boosted our defence as usual but offered little else.

Next Week's team:

Roberts

Richards
Goulding
Carmont
Pryce/Ainscough

Smith
Leuluai

Fielden
Riddell
O'Carroll

Bailey
O'Loughlin

J.Tomkins

Paleaasina
Hock
Prescott/Coley
S.Tomkins/McIlorum.

: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:07 pm  

pat richards
amos roberts
phil baily
george carmont
karl pryce
timmy smith
tommy leuluai
stu fielden
mark riddell
emon o carroll
joel tomkins
harrison hanson
sean o loughlin


gaz hock
feaka
paul prescott
sam tomkins


mathers
coley
goulding
phelps
these players need time in reserves not good enough

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:36 am  

Andy Coley.

We told you so ...

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:37 am  

Sheddy wrote:

Andy Coley.

We told you so ...

We should have listened.

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:31 pm  

Alex BP' wrote:

:( We should have listened.

How long did you sign him up for?

Noble should have watched more of him during the 2007 season and realised how poor he really was, we werent bitterly dissapointed with his performances for no reason.

Coley had his best seasons under Karl Harrison when used as a wide running second rower, but he thought he knew best and wanted to mix it in the middle with the big boys. Unfortunatly he hasnt got the "know how" to play as a modern day prop forward assuming he still has bad ball security, lazely jogs upto the line and more often than not "crabs" along the line rather than hitting it with speed and momentum.

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:38 pm  

beasty wrote:

pat richards
amos roberts
phil baily
george carmont
karl pryce
timmy smith
tommy leuluai
stu fielden
mark riddell
emon o carroll
joel tomkins
harrison hanson
sean o loughlin


gaz hock
feaka
paul prescott
sam tomkins


mathers
coley
goulding
phelps
these players need time in reserves not good enough

Pryce is clearly not ready and will not be for a good while yet.

What has Goulding wrong for you to asy this regarding the 09 season?

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:04 pm  

1 Roberts
2 Ainscough
3 Goulding
4 Carmont
5 Richards
6 Smith
7 Tommy
8 Fielden
9 Riddell
10 O'Carroll
11 Hansen
12 Locky
13 J. Tomkins

Sub Feka
Sub Prescott
Sub Hock
Sub S. Tomkins

We need a half-back/hooker on the bench, no need for 5 backrows in the squad. We should be using our abundence of backrows to create some competition for places, not having them all in the matchday squad.

Smith needs to be given more time at 6, he was used as a bit-part played towards the end of last seaon. IMO needs a decent run of games before being judged.

The foreign players we have in the team must be a significant improvment on the promisinging youngsters we've got. Players like Phelps & Baileys are only holding back the likes of Goulding, Ainscough, Mossopp.

Although the only change I expect to see against Hull depends on if Mathers gets suspended.