Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:41 pm  

snowie wrote:

you telling he can't pick a phone up or he hasn't even got a contact number to the club that and has to go to the press to talk to them,

now the club is saying he's not answering his phone and now they've gone to press,

what a set of childish actions

Why should he beg? The club should be doing everything to keep him in the loop regarding future signings etc. They should be the ones making all the moves not Edwards.

Of course hes not answering them, hes busy sorting out his future since he has no contract for next year and has been left in the cold by Wigan.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:42 pm  

Is it bad that I’m hoping Edwards is in the right on this issue and the club get shown up for their amateurism?

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:45 pm  

My take fwiw as I have more worries about mis management from my own club with regards player recruitment/retention.
But could there have been a gentleman's agreement at the time and your chairman felt there was no need to issue a contract foolishly I hasten to add on the basis Edwards would not renege on this.
Maybe after all those years of knowing him he never thought he would go back on the handshake or whatever it was that made IL think he had secured SE`s assurance.
SE has made it known he is available and got a better offer probably before he made it known!
Either IL is blatantly lying which would be a mistake especially as he has already announced it.
Or Edwards felt the offer of more money and no biding contract was in place so why not take the better offer.
All in all very frustrating to you guys as fans.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:53 pm  

chapylad wrote:

My take fwiw as I have more worries about mis management from my own club with regards player recruitment/retention.
But could there have been a gentleman's agreement at the time and your chairman felt there was no need to issue a contract foolishly I hasten to add on the basis Edwards would not renege on this.
Maybe after all those years of knowing him he never thought he would go back on the handshake or whatever it was that made IL think he had secured SE`s assurance.
SE has made it known he is available and got a better offer probably before he made it known!
Either IL is blatantly lying which would be a mistake especially as he has already announced it.
Or Edwards felt the offer of more money and no biding contract was in place so why not take the better offer.
All in all very frustrating to you guys as fans.

There is no such thing as a gentlemens agreement, IL has been shoddy, end pf story. I just hope for Wigans sake they can sort a decent coach out, Lam is clearly rubbish.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:57 pm  

The 1st rule of law and the last rule of law....
Get it in writing

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:58 pm  

chapylad wrote:

My take fwiw as I have more worries about mis management from my own club with regards player recruitment/retention.
But could there have been a gentleman's agreement at the time and your chairman felt there was no need to issue a contract foolishly I hasten to add on the basis Edwards would not renege on this.
Maybe after all those years of knowing him he never thought he would go back on the handshake or whatever it was that made IL think he had secured SE`s assurance.
SE has made it known he is available and got a better offer probably before he made it known!
Either IL is blatantly lying which would be a mistake especially as he has already announced it.
Or Edwards felt the offer of more money and no biding contract was in place so why not take the better offer.
All in all very frustrating to you guys as fans.

Maybe but even so the club is solely to blame. They lied saying he had signed a 3 year deal when he clearly had not. I believe Edwards has been making noises in the media for the past month or two to try and get the club to provide a contract for him to sign which has not happened. Even Lenegan himself came out and admitted that Edwards may not come last month when asked to comment. Edwards now seems at the point where he has said, sod it, im going to look elsewhere and nobody can blame him.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:02 pm  

Without having read the whole of this thread, I should draw everyone's attention to a comment attributed to Shaun Edwards in today's Times, which goes something along the lines of him waiting on Wasps' offer in case he gets offered the England job.

That surely answers quite a few questions.

If the England job was suddenly dangled like a carrot, it's no wonder he turned his back on any agreement he might have reached with Wigan (and he must have reached one - he wasn't forced to participate in that press conference at gunpoint).

Maybe Wigan were not at fault for not tying him to a written contract - assuming they didn't - but really, what good have written contracts done in recent years? If a player or coach want out, that's all that seems to matter.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:07 pm  

Orrell Lad wrote:

Is it bad that I’m hoping Edwards is in the right on this issue and the club get shown up for their amateurism?

Bad or not, it would most likely (and quite rightly) cause people to wonder what planet you're on.

You'd seriously wish the club chairman - who has so far delivered a ton of silverware to Wigan - humiliated on the say-so of a guy who left the sport years ago and who quite clearly, whatever he says, has ambitions that go way beyond a return to RL?

Seriously?

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:08 pm  

It's the clubs fault. They clearly failed to follow the most obvious of steps.

-Open communication
-Agree terms
-Produce contract which reflects terms
-Adjust contract if needed
-All parties sign the contract making all the t's and c's official
-Work out a time to announce the move
-Announce the appointment to the public.

If a contract was agreed and signed we wouldn't be in the middle of this sh%t storm.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:09 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

Without having read the whole of this thread, I should draw everyone's attention to a comment attributed to Shaun Edwards in today's Times, which goes something along the lines of him waiting on Wasps' offer in case he gets offered the England job.

That surely answers quite a few questions.

If the England job was suddenly dangled like a carrot, it's no wonder he turned his back on any agreement he might have reached with Wigan (and he must have reached one - he wasn't forced to participate in that press conference at gunpoint).

Maybe Wigan were not at fault for not tying him to a written contract - assuming they didn't - but really, what good have written contracts done in recent years? If a player or coach want out, that's all that seems to matter.

I can't agree with that, you've sacrificed this year in order to wait for the guy that you really want, the golden goose that's gonna bring all your true believers back (in their 91/92 Norweb shirts) and you don't get pen on paper?

If he didn't want the job surely he wouldn't have entertained the conversations, and agreed to be wheeled out in front of the press, he's never going to be short of job offers in rah rah, (top ones not withstanding) so it's not like he came and chatted in order to get leverage.

your management team has dropped a bollock, you wouldn't announce that you've signed a player without pen on paper would you? that would be embarressing, same as this.