Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:36 pm  

P-J wrote:

He's making out like we've announced him as a coach then told him to go away for 12 months with no contact or contract. Sod off.

We basically did. Its pretty obvious that the club have not been in consultation with him regarding any preparation for next year.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:38 pm  

Th'Observer wrote:

Could it be that Edwards doesn't sign a contract because of the legalities/compensation involved if Lam was a roaring success?

If Lam had cleaned up this year (obviously he can no longer do the quadruple or the treble for that matter) and with hindsight it looks silly to suggest we'd ever have been capable of that now but going off this assumption before a ball was kicked would tying Edwards to a deal and then us potentially sticking with Lam as Head Coach going forward result in a big pay-off for Edwards for essentially nothing? If he put pen to paper this surely would be the case?

It doesn't seem so ridiculous to suggest this as not too long after the deal was announced Edwards said he'd happily stand aside in the best interests of the club if Lam was successful and Lenagan himself said it'd be a nice dilemma for Wigan to have. In this scenario there'd be significant calls from a good percentage of fans to retain Lam.

The plan was clearly for Edwards to come in for 3 years after Lam passes the baton from Wane to Edwards but because of the uniqueness of the arrangement it seems as if they have left it open-ended as if it could always be subject to change. Again, I imagine this would be to save £££ on any potential pay-out to Edwards had we kept Lam?

For all we know Lenagan could've had a set date in his own mind of when the contract was going to be put on the table after the handshake agreement and he was happy that Edwards would stick to this verbally agreed commitment until the contract was put forward.

It seems naive to let this rumble on for 9 months without signing him to a contract however and now it seems as if either Edwards is trying to force the club's hand to get this boxed off or he has simply got cold feet/changed his mind whilst waiting.

Then why did the club announce a 3 year contract had been signed?

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:41 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

It's the clubs fault. They clearly failed to follow the most obvious of steps.

-Open communication
-Agree terms
-Produce contract which reflects terms
-Adjust contract if needed
-All parties sign the contract making all the t's and c's official
-Work out a time to announce the move
-Announce the appointment to the public.

If a contract was agreed and signed we wouldn't be in the middle of this sh%t storm.

I mean I know nowt about hiring someone but if it where me who was hiring and firing I’d print this list off and pin it to my wall in my office,

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:45 pm  

The_Enforcer wrote:

Then why did the club announce a 3 year contract had been signed?

It looks like poor wording on the club's part now that's for sure.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:50 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

I can't agree with that, you've sacrificed this year in order to wait for the guy that you really want, the golden goose that's gonna bring all your true believers back (in their 91/92 Norweb shirts) and you don't get pen on paper?

If he didn't want the job surely he wouldn't have entertained the conversations, and agreed to be wheeled out in front of the press, he's never going to be short of job offers in rah rah, (top ones not withstanding) so it's not like he came and chatted in order to get leverage.

your management team has dropped a bollock, you wouldn't announce that you've signed a player without pen on paper would you? that would be embarressing, same as this.

Oooh, you are well-named Mr Catpiss.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:07 pm  

Seems to me

a) The timing here, straight after Wales win the Grand Slam, is surely not coincidental. This adds £££s to SE's value. And really, given the choice of England RU coach, Wasps coach, or Wigan coach, what order of desirability would most folk put them in? If, as now appears clear, on contract has been signed, then SE hasn't really done anything that much wrong.

b) That said, IL and Rads have been foolish at best, or deceitful at worst, by making out to fans that we had Edwards when we didn't.

c) The fans deserve a better, and much more detailed explanation of what the hell is going on than that two-sentence load of anodyne rubbish they've come out with.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:16 pm  

The_Enforcer wrote:

We basically did. Its pretty obvious that the club have not been in consultation with him regarding any preparation for next year.

Pretty obvious because Edwards has run straight to the press and declared it?

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:17 pm  

The_Enforcer wrote:

We basically did. Its pretty obvious that the club have not been in consultation with him regarding any preparation for next year.

So you don't think Lenagan, Lam or Radlinski have been in contact with Edwards for months?

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:19 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Do you believe that there's been no contact with Edwards over the last few months?

Of course they've been in contact.

The fact he's negotiating a deal with Wasps and refuses to answer the phone to Wigan after dropping this bombshell in a media interview tells you everything you need to know about his intentions and motives.

We've been played like a fiddle.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:24 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

So you don't think Lenagan, Lam or Radlinski have been in contact with Edwards for months?

No, the impression i get from Edwards comments is that he has no idea what is going on.