Re: Garbage : Mon May 27, 2019 8:00 am  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Cap only counts the first 25 players, so only 23 players to go!

As far as I understand it that is only for their actual base salary but I'll stand corrected. Any appearance fees count and should a player exempt from the cap for being on less than 20k or under 21 play a certain number of games their whole salary then counts.

If appearances and bonuses didn't count you would just pay everyone peanuts for their basic salary and then pump them with bonuses etc.

Re: Garbage : Mon May 27, 2019 8:56 am  

Egg Chasing wrote: As far as I understand it that is only for their actual base salary but I'll stand corrected. Any appearance fees count and should a player exempt from the cap for being on less than 20k or under 21 play a certain number of games their whole salary then counts. If appearances and bonuses didn't count you would just pay everyone peanuts for their basic salary and then pump them with bonuses etc. When calculating bonuses for salary cap, the cap assumes a number of appearances based on the base salary. Players earning under 20k are assumed to play 5 games a year, those over, 18. (https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=283 section 5.6.3). At some clubs, young players may have one time payrises in their contracts for debut/ first 10 games/ whatever, which would take them into the top 25 earners. This isn’t regulated by the cap, which is why some teams manage to get themselves in the position where they can’t play certain young players.

Egg Chasing wrote: As far as I understand it that is only for their actual base salary but I'll stand corrected. Any appearance fees count and should a player exempt from the cap for being on less than 20k or under 21 play a certain number of games their whole salary then counts. If appearances and bonuses didn't count you would just pay everyone peanuts for their basic salary and then pump them with bonuses etc. When calculating bonuses for salary cap, the cap assumes a number of appearances based on the base salary. Players earning under 20k are assumed to play 5 games a year, those over, 18. (https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=283 section 5.6.3). At some clubs, young players may have one time payrises in their contracts for debut/ first 10 games/ whatever, which would take them into the top 25 earners. This isn’t regulated by the cap, which is why some teams manage to get themselves in the position where they can’t play certain young players.

Re: Garbage : Thu May 30, 2019 10:06 pm  

The game is dying a slow death

Re: Garbage : Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:19 pm  

Mash Butty wrote:

it's almost 2006 again, we had an offloading Sculthorpe and got a proper prop in Fielden, so now we need a proper 6, 7, 9,10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 & 17

And how did Fielden get on for us? Haven't a clue how you think Flower, Greenwood and Farrell aren't good enough for us. They would get into any team in SL easily.

Re: Garbage : Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:43 pm  

Yes I'd take those 3 at Warrington but Greenwood and Flower would start on the bench. I'd have put Farrell ahead of Currie on recent form only so grudgingly I'd play him ahead of Hughes.

Re: Garbage : Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:27 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

And how did Fielden get on for us? Haven't a clue how you think Flower, Greenwood and Farrell aren't good enough for us. They would get into any team in SL easily.

I don't think they would get into the Saints team. Flower & Farrell's both give good effort but their best days are behind them. Greenwood couldn't even deal with Fages in the saints match. Fielden did OK didn't he, unless you think he didn't?

Re: Garbage : Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:01 pm  

Mash Butty wrote:

I don't think they would get into the Saints team. Flower & Farrell's both give good effort but their best days are behind them. Greenwood couldn't even deal with Fages in the saints match. Fielden did OK didn't he, unless you think he didn't?

Short memory mate? Saints couldn’t cope with Greenwood at their place in the Super 8s last year and if you’d rather see Peyroux or Zeb Taia ahead of Greenwood the we have very different opinions on back rowers. The difference this season is that their entire team is playing well together and ours isn’t. Individually, Greenwood is a better 2nd rower than either of those mentioned.

[DaveO]

Re: Garbage : Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:31 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

And how did Fielden get on for us? Haven't a clue how you think Flower, Greenwood and Farrell aren't good enough for us. They would get into any team in SL easily.

How did Fielden get on for us? In 2006 absolutely fantastic. I will never forget him geeing up the fans in the east stand on his home debut. Him and the signing of Dobson along with Noble as coach saved us from relegation. Why do you think Fielden was signed? To annoy Brian Noble or on his recommendation?

As to Flower, Greenwood and Faz of those three only one would interest other top teams and it is Greenwood.

Re: Garbage : Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:55 am  

DaveO wrote:

How did Fielden get on for us? In 2006 absolutely fantastic. I will never forget him geeing up the fans in the east stand on his home debut. Him and the signing of Dobson along with Noble as coach saved us from relegation. Why do you think Fielden was signed? To annoy Brian Noble or on his recommendation?

As to Flower, Greenwood and Faz of those three only one would interest other top teams and it is Greenwood.

Cheated from relegation you mean.

Re: Garbage : Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:29 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

Cheated from relegation you mean.

Of course.... We are the best and most consistent cheats in the land!!!