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Re: Greenwood : Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:55 am  
I'm as dubious as plenty here about Greenwood, but nevertheless, in the current situation, I'm amazed that there wasn't even a place on the bench for him.

But then typically, nothing we did would have surprised Salford. We did exactly what they expected, except, a little worse.
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Re: Greenwood : Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:14 pm  
Our bench is the week point.

As said above Faz gets picked at LSR as it is his best position and he overall offers more than Greenwood. Greenwood is crap on the right so Isa starts as RSR as although he has no go forward he is a tackling machine.

Of the other forwards only Partington and Smithies seem capable of playing big minutes, both are tackling machines but neither have a lot of go forward because they are relatively small. Subsequently both should start if they are in the squad though Lam may go Lockers over Smithies.

Powell will get selected at hooker leaving 1 prop position free for Clubb/Flower

Lam will always want Lockers in the squad so he takes one bench spot and can cover half back at a push as last night. Clubb/Flower takes another. You are then left with Byrne, Navarette, Havard, Greenwood, Sammutt or French as an option. I feel Lam wants to involve French having brought him over early so the other bench spots goes to a prop.

Sad state of affairs really as I would prefer two props, a back row and a hooker/half on the bench and Lockers is taking up the slot that should be Greenwoods whereas Greenwood was used from the bench to rest Lockers earlier in the season.

Its Lockers inability to do the full 80 mins and the fact that Smithies is a better defender that is keeping Greenwood out.

The young forwards have done well this season and with the loss of Bullock to injury and Tautai and Hamlin to off-field problems have had to do way more minutes than what would have been expected.
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Re: Greenwood : Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:25 pm  
I have it on good authority that Lam really doesn’t rate Greenwood , so Greenwood is looking to leave asap
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Re: Greenwood : Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:05 am  
Brick with eyes wrote:
I have it on good authority that Lam really doesn’t rate Greenwood , so Greenwood is looking to leave asap


Always trust the Enforcer. Who told you Edwards wasnt coming months before anybody even thought there was a problem? Who brought up the idea that Greenwood could be on his way out before anybody thought of the idea?
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Re: Greenwood : Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:04 am  
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Always trust the Enforcer. Who told you Edwards wasnt coming months before anybody even thought there was a problem? Who brought up the idea that Greenwood could be on his way out before anybody thought of the idea?

I give up. Was it RichieS? :THINK: :WHISTLE:
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Re: Greenwood : Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:41 am  
I'd be disappointed to see Joe leave. When confident he's one of the best back rowers in the league. Short memories forget how devastating he was in the 2018 playoff run and GF.

I see a player low on confidence due to a number of nasty head knocks, understandably Joe is firing on all cylinders which shows in his recent performances. This is where man-management comes in; Joe will need positively, support and the right development over preseason to get his head right-literally.

I say persevere with him. The barnstorming back rower is in there somewhere.
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Re: Greenwood : Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:46 am  
The only way I’d consider letting him leave is in a swap deal for a natural right sided second row but they’d have to be a good one to make it worthwhile. He’s frustrating is Greenwood but there’s a top player in there. I’ve said since he came that sometimes with him you have to accept the odd lazy tackle or him going off for a minor knock (not his head problems) because if the guy was pumped full of aggression and work rate he wouldn’t be at Wigan. He’s got the natural size and athletic ability of a backrower who could be the best in the world ‘if’ he had a bit more about him in the heart and aggression stakes.
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Re: Greenwood : Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:07 am  
If Lam wants rid of Greenwood then he has to bring in a top class right sided 2nd row to replace him.
OK he's had a poor year but he didn't when he arrived in 2018 he was superb.
A good off season and we could well see the best of Joe again and when at his his best he is excellent.
Lam needs to be careful who he gets rid of unless he's got a better replacement lined up.
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Re: Greenwood : Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:25 pm  
Swap deal with McMeeken please
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Re: Greenwood : Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:40 pm  
Think i must be the only one who rates him. I think he is top class. Never going to perform when not getting a run of games in an un-familiar position. I say persevere with him. Spend the off season transitioning him from the left to the right and we would reap the rewards i am sure. We would massively regret letting him go i reckon, but..... we don't know what is going on behind the scenes i suppose.
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