The blunt truth : Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:19 pm  

Lam - A joke that we have given him another year.

Hardaker - Good defender, not good enough in attack.

Hankinson - Doesnt do anything wrong but simply not good enough

Gildart - dreadful loss of form in the last half of season.

Burgess - Done for. Lost his speed, looks lazy and clumsy

Williams - Thank God he is going. Far too hot and cold. Tonight he was stone cold, totally outplayed 10 times over by the man who will replace him.

Tommy - Past it. Great defender but couldnt create beans on toast with ball in hand

Flower - Good 10 minutes with some improved carries tonight but then he needs a weeks rest. Far too unfit for the modern game. Perhaps too old?

Powell - Has no craft with the ball in hand and hookers need to be crafty.

Clubb - I truly hope this guy never plays for Wigan again. Utterly awful, slow and cumbersome

Farrell - another who lost his form this past few weeks. Still tried hard though in a beaten team.

Isa - another i dont want to play for wigan ever again. Has there ever been a less threatening player with ball in hand? Looks like hes doing a lot but in reality does nothing in attack. Never breaks a tackle, never makes metres after the tackle, cant pass, slow, no agility.

O'loughlin - Looked the only player capable of creating something despite him being ready for the knackers yard. Been over used in the early part of the season IMO.

French - This guy is a winger nothing more. Very dangerous with with ball in hand but he seems like a luxury player since we will have 4 other wingers next year. Did we really need him?

I fear for next year looking at our team. Only Burgess is an improvement in the forwards.

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:26 pm  

Bet Hastings is buzzing to play with our mob next year...imagine if we have a Shaun Edwards u turn part 2

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:32 pm  

dh13 wrote:

Bet Hastings is buzzing to play with our mob next year...imagine if we have a Shaun Edwards u turn part 2

You know, i thought about that last week, not with Hastings but Burgess. Have any of these new players actually signed?

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:45 pm  

Skerrett - The answer to all our issues in the fowards.

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:52 pm  

Lam ain’t good enough, the team don’t look like they want to play with each other and that’s down to him. We are Wigan and we need someone more experienced. (Little voice at the back ‘What about Maguire?’ Well 1 swallow doesn’t make a summer).

What is the plan for French? It seems we are recruiting players based on every attribute other than how they’d fit into the team.

So that’s 2 areas where I think we are lacking, the coaching side and the recruitment side. Theres no point looking beyond those areas for the time being.

On another note I’ve never know a Wigan side not to give a toss more than tonight’s side, and from my experience that’s down to the coaches and club culture.

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:01 pm  

post wrote:

Lam ain’t good enough, the team don’t look like they want to play with each other and that’s down to him. We are Wigan and we need someone more experienced. (Little voice at the back ‘What about Maguire?’ Well 1 swallow doesn’t make a summer).

What is the plan for French? It seems we are recruiting players based on every attribute other than how they’d fit into the team.

So that’s 2 areas where I think we are lacking, the coaching side and the recruitment side. Theres no point looking beyond those areas for the time being.

On another note I’ve never know a Wigan side not to give a toss more than tonight’s side, and from my experience that’s down to the coaches and club culture.

You see, i didnt see a lack of effort or a team not giving a toss. I thought they tried hard. I just saw a team that was unprepared and had no direction. Phil Clarke commented at one point in the first half that we were just making the plays up and id agree with that.

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:29 pm  

Did anyone else hear Hastings say he will miss all this next year?

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:48 pm  

Lam has 2020 to win something or at least get us to a final.
He did well getting us to 2nd but he's not a good enough coach for play off rugby.
Two weeks ago we beat Salford in a close fought match. So close it left our players physically and mentally shattered. We were smashed by Saints and well beaten by Salford tonight.
After their narrow defeat 2 weeks ago Salford went on to beat Cas convincingly and did the same tonight. Their coach has motivated them to improve. We've gone backwards in play off rugby to an extent that's very worrying.
We still had some very good players out there yet they served up that dross.
Whether they were playing believing they could win I don't know but don't think so. Salford played knowing they could win and did so.
Lam has some thinking to do this off season, mainly about himself.

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:51 pm  

French will become another Escare,not quite good enough in any one position quite why he was signed still befuddles me

As for Lam well he needs to get himself sorted as he simply looks out of his depth and it’s been like this most of the season bar the odd game here and there

Re: The blunt truth : Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:06 am  

hengirl wrote:

French will become another Escare,not quite good enough in any one position quite why he was signed still befuddles me

As for Lam well he needs to get himself sorted as he simply looks out of his depth and it’s been like this most of the season bar the odd game here and there

And on this basis whoever is in charge of recruitment needs to go. Don’t get me wrong, French looks an exciting attacking player but some of his tackles tonight made me wonder whether he’d ever tackled anyone before tonight. I’m wondering what position he will play? I know he’s come over early but what position next year? Utility?