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Quite a few options for the game with up to 4 players coming back in Manfredi Powell Burgess and Flower, personally I’d go with something like this although I doubt it’ll happen

French
Manfredi Hardaker Bibby Marshall
Hastings Smith
Bullock Powell Flower
Isa Farrell
Smithies

Burgess Clark Partington Tommy

Other than swapping out Partington for Bryne/Havard I don’t disagree with that. It’s a good side on paper definitely

On the night I was pretty livid with how Burgess had performed but looking back again, it was a mixed bag and there were some signs that he could get back to a really high level if we can get his confidence going again. He certainly looks to have found half a yard again going off his try. I’d probably give him his last chance before bringing Manfredi in at Huddersfield if Burgess doesn’t cut out the basic errors.

I’d go-

French
Marshall Hardaker Bibby Burgess
Leuluai Hastings
Bullock Powell Flower
Isa Farrell Partington

Subs
Clark Burgess Greenwood Smithies

I’ve been impressed with Harry Smith but his defence would be a worry against a powerful Hull pack. He missed 9 tackles on Thursday looking at the stats. It didn’t really feel like that at the game but throwing people like Ma’u, Sao, Jones, Griffin etc at him might not end well at the minute whilst he’s adjusting to first team rugby.

Other than that I’d want a big pack and a big bench. I’d go with Partington at 13 to add the aggression from the start. He’s got a good pair of hands on him and I actually think he’d make a better 13 then he does prop at the moment.

We need some muscle in the pack, but fit muscle that has played before. I don’t want Burgess or Flower in the team until they’ve played a reserve game to gauge their fitness.

1 - French
2 - Manfredi
3 - Hardaker
4 - Bibby
5 - Marshall
6 - Leuluai
7 - Hastings
8 - Bullock
9 - Powell
10 - Byrne
11 - Farrell
12 - Isa
13 - Smithies

14 - Clarke
15 - Partington
16 - Clubb
17 - Greenwood

Game plan - Offload like hell, tire their big forwards out.

The way to tire them is to knock out set after set and follow it with a good kicking game. Low risk rugby in the first half and open it up in the second. Start trying offload after offload will inevitably lead to a few dropped balls and turn over in possession. I agree we need to tire them but not through high risk rugby. If we give a high completion rate and low error count, we’ll be fine.

When do Wigan OFF LOAD

Player wise, every October to the NRL

Could do with Saints beating them up a bit and yes we'll need to go big.
Could really do with Greenwood having a blinder for the reserves today.

Only players that the expert fans critics, criticise every week and say they rubbish.
See below

Mossop
Sutton
Sarginson
Gelling
Williams

Exceptions Tomkins/Bateman

So don't see what the issue is, club are only getting rid of players the fans don't think are any good?

True. When is Clubby going?