Re: Clark : Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:09 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Absolutely. Spent years at Wigan claiming he's not a fullback only to end up playing fullback and even being shoved on the wing for Wakey

Exactly. I'm sure he sometimes thinks back...... If only, if only, if only.

Re: Clark : Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:31 pm  

MattyB wrote:

That Sam Tomkins fella did okay didn't he?
That Farrell lad who has played a few games for us these past ten years, he's pretty good?
Or what about that Gildart boy? Or the even younger Marshall kid, he's not bad either.

Then there's young Williams who's bagged himself an NRL contract along with that Ryan Sutton lad?

Then there's Manfredi before he unluckily got himself seriously injured.


I could go on........

Your point?

Nobody said we've not produced some good young players. My post was in reference to Rogues. He says every crop of young players coming through are going to be world beaters.

Re: Clark : Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:37 pm  

Pieman wrote:

he never got a chance to be

Hes had years at Wakefield. I dont see many top clubs queuing up for his signature.

Do you think we should bring him back to Wigan?

Re: Clark : Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:39 pm  

The_Enforcer wrote:

Your point?

Nobody said we've not produced some good young players. My post was in reference to Rogues. He says every crop of young players coming through are going to be world beaters.

World Beaters? Put your money where you mouth is then and quote him where he's stated that.

Re: Clark : Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:43 pm  

MattyB wrote:

Exactly. I'm sure he sometimes thinks back...... If only, if only, if only.

I think Hampshire got confused by the change of emphasis on the role of players. The old school remember the half backs as being the playmaking maestros just as we have with Hastings again today. Hampshire came through when the emphasis as playmaker was being shifted to the fullback. By the time he would have got his chance in his favoured position he had already been loaned out.

Re: Clark : Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:09 pm  

The_Enforcer wrote:

Hes had years at Wakefield. I dont see many top clubs queuing up for his signature.

Do you think we should bring him back to Wigan?

Leeds wanted him when he was at Wigan but Wigan talked him into another contract loaned him out and he never played for us again. I know a bit about this as I spoke to someone close to him and the club (not going to post his name on here) and he said the club treated him terribly through it all, offered him the world and in effect ruined his chance of signing for another big club and reaching his potential

Re: Clark : Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:11 pm  

Levrier wrote:

I think Hampshire got confused by the change of emphasis on the role of players. The old school remember the half backs as being the playmaking maestros just as we have with Hastings again today. Hampshire came through when the emphasis as playmaker was being shifted to the fullback. By the time he would have got his chance in his favoured position he had already been loaned out.

He probably looked at George and thought he’s playing ok in the halves and I used to outplay him in the academy so why can’t I

Re: Clark : Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:18 pm  

Pieman wrote:

He probably looked at George and thought he’s playing ok in the halves and I used to outplay him in the academy so why can’t I

I still occasionally watch the Magic game against Leeds so the answer is he probably could.

Re: Clark : Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:58 pm  

MattyB wrote:

World Beaters? Put your money where you mouth is then and quote him where he's stated that.

I was obviously typing tongue in cheek. Rogues tells us every set of young players are something special. Hes been doing it since the 00's.

Re: Clark : Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:52 pm  

The_Enforcer wrote:

I was obviously typing tongue in cheek. Rogues tells us every set of young players are something special. Hes been doing it since the 00's.

OK. I accept that.

In his defence I would say we have done extremely well over the last fifteen years with our youth production line. In fact I would state that it's the backbone of our success since IL came on board.

Now granted not EVERY young kid that has come through has made it to the very top. But our academy have won almost every title over the last ten years, the cream of the youth have helped us win several SL titles and a WCC title as well. Some have left (can't keep them all) and carved out successful 'mostly' careers elsewhere be in RL or RU (Chris Ashton still swandiving over the line these days)? Plus Owen Farrell can thank his early start to our club as well.

Yes now and again we have a dud but overall we ain't done bad. We could be worse we could be Wire or Hull, two clubs who spend big on young players from other areas. Even Leeds (who traditionally match us for a strong production line of talented youth are stuttering a bit these days).

Of everything that's happened good and bad since DW and Uncle Mo left I would say our academy products has been our greatest success and we are looked upon with green eyed envy from every club in the league year on year.