Re: Eddie and Stevo : Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:24 pm  

Barry and Terry are so out of touch it’s not funny, the game has moved on from their days, and the analysis they offer is based on when they played, and it’s not what the game is now. As commentators they are there to explain the game to the viewer, good and bad. Barry’s commentary harks back to when the role of prop was really night club bouncer, And doesn’t offer any insight to what’s happening on the pitch. Terry is a nice guy but how many setasixes do we have to hear in a commentary.

If the sport has aspirations beyond beer and skittles we need to present the sport better, Wilkin is articulate and comes over well on TV, Clarke is ok, but needs to stop trying to sound clever and just comment on the game, I get the feeling he is trying to find a role in the team. But why do we have so many commentators? Football has a commentator and a summariser then the studio, we are trying to cram too many “personalities” and it does end up a bit “end of the pier”.

Carney is good as a presenter, I like Jon Wells’s reviews, but that really is it with the team at the moment. So who do we bring in Davies is ok, he understands the basics and comes over well, but is also a recognised face.

Re: Eddie and Stevo : Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:28 pm  

Davies is awful

Re: Eddie and Stevo : Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:16 pm  

Eddie's Wigan bashing is was what frustrated me most, it particularly showed from 2010 when we became a force again.

Personally I loved Stevo. Although what came out his mouth was sometimes nonsense, his enthusiasm and excitement in the commentary box was up there with the best.

Right now we're at an all time low. Barry and Terry despite being in their roles for years still consistently trip and stumble through their broadcasts. My other half (who's a southerner) often laughs out loud at the phrases they come out with during in a professional rugby league match. While Bill Arthur & Rodd Studd are lack luster. Carney and Wells are beacon of light within the team, but are often cancelled out when they have guests like Luke Gale and Jamie Peacock struggling to piece a sentence together.

Wilkin, Sinfield and S.Tomkins are the only ones who have shown true ability for a future in the punditry.

Re: Eddie and Stevo : Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:32 am  

Can't add to any of this. For once, I agree with almost everything everyone has said.

Re: Eddie and Stevo : Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:28 pm  

Some good observations and comments on here. Agree with much that has been said but here is my pennies worth ....
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Bill Arthur - competent but shows no real enthusiasm or insight so get rid.
Baz - quite like him in small doses so possibly keep
Tez - sorry but get rid, dull
Brian - keep, an excellent front man
Wells - not bothered
Clarkey - a Wigan hero he might be but get rid, for interesting piece of insight there is is too much rubbish the most recent being the 'discussion' with Brian ref player welfare

For me get Dave Woods in. He is genuinely enthusiastic and knowledgeable about the game.
Wilkin - not sure, we don't see him that often so he seems ok but would he be ok on a weekly basis i don't know
Jiffy - a hero for us at Warrington but not convinced about his commentating BUT neutrals and non believers will know who he is

Who knows what kind of bargaining position we might be in anyway, could be we get what we get and have to lump it. Hope not.

Re: Eddie and Stevo : Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:32 pm  

The Railwayman wrote:

Some good observations and comments on here. Agree with much that has been said but here is my pennies worth ....
.
Bill Arthur - competent but shows no real enthusiasm or insight so get rid.
Baz - quite like him in small doses so possibly keep
Tez - sorry but get rid, dull
Brian - keep, an excellent front man
Wells - not bothered
Clarkey - a Wigan hero he might be but get rid, for interesting piece of insight there is is too much rubbish the most recent being the 'discussion' with Brian ref player welfare

For me get Dave Woods in. He is genuinely enthusiastic and knowledgeable about the game.
Wilkin - not sure, we don't see him that often so he seems ok but would he be ok on a weekly basis i don't know
Jiffy - a hero for us at Warrington but not convinced about his commentating BUT neutrals and non believers will know who he is

Who knows what kind of bargaining position we might be in anyway, could be we get what we get and have to lump it. Hope not.

Jiffys the worst of them all, hes so out of touch

Re: Eddie and Stevo : Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:46 pm  

Don't necessarily disagree with you.but at least people might know who he is.

Re: Eddie and Stevo : Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:37 pm  

The Railwayman wrote:

Don't necessarily disagree with you.but at least people might know who he is.

Why does that matter?
If you don’t know RL, you don’t watch it.

Let’s not pretend we have anywhere near the product (on the field) to attract many ‘neutrals’ to watch Castleford v Salford on a Thursday night in February.

Re: Eddie and Stevo : Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:01 am  

keyrox wrote:

Davies is awful

I beg to differ!

Re: Eddie and Stevo : Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:28 am  

I hate Davies. I can't stand his peevish "Just watch!", as if the audience are naughty schoolboys who haven't been paying attention. And I don't understand why the Aussies can find ex-players with real tactical insights to offer, like Walters and Sterling (OK, Gasnier*, not so much!), whereas we end up with Cannon and Ball. Hemmings is obviously the worst. Quite apart from the ridiculous anti-Wigan bias, despite watching the game for half a life-time, he even seems to struggle to understand the rules.


* As I've remarked before, if you prevented Gasnier from saying "there's space behind the ruck" throughout a game, you would get lengthy periods of silence!