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Re: Clubb : Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:40 am  
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The issue really is that his best days are behind him and I don’t think the club were ruthless enough in their decision making.



Agree with this.
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Re: Clubb : Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:38 pm  
MattyB wrote:
Agree with this.


Me too
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Re: Clubb : Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:04 pm  
No one wants to see players injured, but Clubb is not a key loss to your team. It weakens your squad, but not by much.
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Re: Clubb : Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:22 pm  
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I agree. It isn’t his fault the club gave him a two year deal. He came here in 2014 and has in the main been a good player for us. He’s suffered some serious injuries and Illness in his time here but over the years I’ve enjoyed watching him. These last couple of seasons have probably been years we realistically shouldn’t have given him but before that he’s played a part in the side winning a few trophies and is clearly a bloke the squad look up to.

The issue really is that his best days are behind him and I don’t think the club were ruthless enough in their decision making.


Well said, and following his kidney problem, the club give him back something for the loyal service he had given to the club.

So how anyone can different is not on!
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Re: Clubb : Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:07 am  
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Well said, and following his kidney problem, the club give him back something for the loyal service he had given to the club.

So how anyone can think differently is not on!


Is that what you meant? Few scoops tonight Ruddy?
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Re: Clubb : Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:39 am  
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He can play properly, he proved that for a spell of around a month last season when it was basically him and a few junior props. It was around the time he scored his try at Leeds away from memory. He seemed to switch in to simply running the ball hard and defending properly and left the stupidity to one side. Admittedly he slipped back in to his old ways pretty quickly and I don’t disagree that 90% of the time he’s not worth a place.

*Edit*

Just checked some stats around that time and his numbers were poles apart from the dross he served up at the start of this season.

HKR-Away (Flower went off injured early and it was after this he stood up and played properly for a few weeks)

32 Tackles
11 Carries
92 metres

Leeds-Away

29 tackles
13 Carries
114 metres

Salford-Home

25 Tackles
11 Carries
75 metres


It isn’t Luke Thompson/Liam Watts but compare that spell to Wire at home this season (9 tackles, 3 carries and 15 metres), Cas away ( 12 tackles, 5 carries and 28 metres) and Toronto at home (16 tackles, 8 carries and 47 metres) and it was a marathon effort from the big fella. Those numbers last year are more than acceptable from a prop who shares his minutes but he picked up yet another injury soon after and then sips back to type as soon as he’s back.


Them Leeds stats include a 50m run after the final whistle. no prop forward should be able to run 50m like that if they have put a shift in. the other stats are acceptable for sure and if he did that every week there would be no issue. If i could be bothered i would go through the other 100 plus games he has been bang average at best. played for 12 minutes in one game last year and Lam wouldn't put him back on. He only played short minutes at cas that year but was warming up to come back on when we couldn't hold them in the second half? We need our props making 15 carries for 120 metres and were laughing. I want every single player to do well and prove me wrong, Greenwood is another, will happily be wrong if he starts playing well.
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Re: Clubb : Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:54 am  
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Is that what you meant? Few scoops tonight Ruddy?


No, but if I had, it would have been proper beer and not urine like Carling!
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Re: Clubb : Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:44 am  
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Them Leeds stats include a 50m run after the final whistle. no prop forward should be able to run 50m like that if they have put a shift in. the other stats are acceptable for sure and if he did that every week there would be no issue. If i could be bothered i would go through the other 100 plus games he has been bang average at best. played for 12 minutes in one game last year and Lam wouldn't put him back on. He only played short minutes at cas that year but was warming up to come back on when we couldn't hold them in the second half? We need our props making 15 carries for 120 metres and were laughing. I want every single player to do well and prove me wrong, Greenwood is another, will happily be wrong if he starts playing well.


I don’t disagree, just pointing out that as I said initially he can do it when gets his head straight. His time should’ve come and gone because as you point out he doesn’t do it anything like often enough but for some reason we kept him on.
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Re: Clubb : Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:40 am  
NickyKiss wrote:
I don’t disagree, just pointing out that as I said initially he can do it when gets his head straight. His time should’ve come and gone because as you point out he doesn’t do it anything like often enough but for some reason we kept him on.


He must have incriminating pictures of somebody thats all i can think.
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