Re: Brian Carney and Sky : Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:10 pm  

Angelus wrote:

Not going to a game or enjoying a sport you've enjoyed for decades just because some people did something you don't like dumbest thing I've read so far on this thread (and there's a lot of dumb in this thread)

Theres a lot of people in their 70s/80 that are a product of their time and therefor wouldnt know racism if it slapped them in the face. I'm all for them staying away to be honest. The game won't miss them

Perhaps they are not going to the game because they do not want to put money in the pockets of players that use their position to promote a highly political organisation that they disagree with?

Your last paragraph says more about you and your generation than it does people in their 70/80s.

Re: Brian Carney and Sky : Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:18 pm  

CyberPieMan wrote:

My, my. Lots of Trump supporting conspiracy theorists around today. I'd suggest a trip back to '50s America & chum up with your pal McCarthy.

Trump has done more for the black community in 3 and half years years than all previous Presidents of the last 3 decades combined but lets blame Trump for RL supporters in the UK not wanting to see players kneeling in support of a marxist organisation.

Re: Brian Carney and Sky : Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:20 pm  

Angelus wrote:

Not going to a game or enjoying a sport you've enjoyed for decades just because some people did something you don't like dumbest thing I've read so far on this thread (and there's a lot of dumb in this thread)

Theres a lot of people in their 70s/80 that are a product of their time and therefor wouldnt know racism if it slapped them in the face. I'm all for them staying away to be honest. The game won't miss them

When do players stop taking the knee?
What actual event should signify that this should cease?

Re: Brian Carney and Sky : Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:43 pm  

The_Enforcer wrote: Trump has done more for the black community in 3 and half years years than all previous Presidents of the last 3 decades combined but lets blame Trump for RL supporters in the UK not wanting to see players kneeling in support of a marxist organisation. Any evidence for this or are you just going to echo just anything the orange moron says? As always this garbage has been debunked many times. You need to read some fact-checking. African-American unemployment rate has been dropping since 2010/2011. Poverty has been declining since 2013. Etc. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/p ... check.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... e-lincoln/ https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar ... omic-gains

The_Enforcer wrote: Trump has done more for the black community in 3 and half years years than all previous Presidents of the last 3 decades combined but lets blame Trump for RL supporters in the UK not wanting to see players kneeling in support of a marxist organisation. Any evidence for this or are you just going to echo just anything the orange moron says? As always this garbage has been debunked many times. You need to read some fact-checking. African-American unemployment rate has been dropping since 2010/2011. Poverty has been declining since 2013. Etc. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/p ... check.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... e-lincoln/ https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar ... omic-gains

Re: Brian Carney and Sky : Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:49 pm  

"CyberPieMan"]My, my. Lots of Trump supporting conspiracy theorists around today. I'd suggest a trip back to '50s America & chum up with your pal McCarthy.[/quote]

McCarthyism is alive and well on all forms of social media driven by predominantly Identity Politics which is for me poisoning any possible chance of balanced debate. This new religion does not allow any alternative nor any semblance of forgiveness to anyone who states any form of disagreement or who will not accept the new gospel

Identity Politics developed by academic's with child like intelligence and accepted by academic lightweights of little intellectual thought. Like any religion it's rules are overly simple for complex issues and needs people of simple minds to accept the religious laws laid down by the high priests.

I'm far from being an academic but when I hear, see and smell bullshit I know that it is bullshit. Identity Politics is just regurgitated bullshit straight from the likes of The Spanish Inquisition or McCarthyism.

Re: Brian Carney and Sky : Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:18 pm  

Wigg'n wrote: Any evidence for this or are you just going to echo just anything the orange moron says? As always this garbage has been debunked many times. You need to read some fact-checking. African-American unemployment rate has been dropping since 2010/2011. Poverty has been declining since 2013. Etc. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/p ... check.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... e-lincoln/ https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar ... omic-gains Lowest black unemployment in history. The fact that you would try to deny Trump any credit for an HISTORIC achievement under his Presidency, tells its own story. First Step Act, something past Presidents promised at election time to get the black vote and failed to deliver once they were in office. Funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities, his administration in one year alone appropriated more money to HBCUs than any other president, and he has taken steps to establish the Presidential Board of Advisors on HBCUs, as requested by community leaders. Opportunity Zones helping put a priority on rebuilding and bettering many African American communities that have long been forgotten under prior administrations. If any other President had done a fraction of this, he would be hailed as the next MLK.

Wigg'n wrote: Any evidence for this or are you just going to echo just anything the orange moron says? As always this garbage has been debunked many times. You need to read some fact-checking. African-American unemployment rate has been dropping since 2010/2011. Poverty has been declining since 2013. Etc. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/p ... check.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... e-lincoln/ https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar ... omic-gains Lowest black unemployment in history. The fact that you would try to deny Trump any credit for an HISTORIC achievement under his Presidency, tells its own story. First Step Act, something past Presidents promised at election time to get the black vote and failed to deliver once they were in office. Funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities, his administration in one year alone appropriated more money to HBCUs than any other president, and he has taken steps to establish the Presidential Board of Advisors on HBCUs, as requested by community leaders. Opportunity Zones helping put a priority on rebuilding and bettering many African American communities that have long been forgotten under prior administrations. If any other President had done a fraction of this, he would be hailed as the next MLK.

Re: Brian Carney and Sky : Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:36 pm  

To kneel means you are subservient, not equal.

Politics and sport shouldn't mix.

I will be boycotting the club from now on until either the club or players show some backbone and not kneel and just get on with playing rugby, or until every member of yesterdays squad that knelt leaves the club. I've got strong views on the subject but I'll refrain from saying them because this is a 'Rugby League' forum and politics and sport should not mix.

Re: Brian Carney and Sky : Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:47 pm  

CyberPieMan wrote:

My, my. Lots of Trump supporting conspiracy theorists around today. I'd suggest a trip back to '50s America & chum up with your pal McCarthy.

Or back to the the post war USSR with good old Joseph Stalin.

Re: Brian Carney and Sky : Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:53 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

"CyberPieMan"]My, my. Lots of Trump supporting conspiracy theorists around today. I'd suggest a trip back to '50s America & chum up with your pal McCarthy.

McCarthyism is alive and well on all forms of social media driven by predominantly Identity Politics which is for me poisoning any possible chance of balanced debate. This new religion does not allow any alternative nor any semblance of forgiveness to anyone who states any form of disagreement or who will not accept the new gospel

Identity Politics developed by academic's with child like intelligence and accepted by academic lightweights of little intellectual thought. Like any religion it's rules are overly simple for complex issues and needs people of simple minds to accept the religious laws laid down by the high priests.

I'm far from being an academic but when I hear, see and smell bullshit I know that it is bullshit. Identity Politics is just regurgitated bullshit straight from the likes of The Spanish Inquisition or McCarthyism.[/quote]

Spot on, but the left don't like reason and logic.

Re: Brian Carney and Sky : Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:58 pm  

Good grief