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Re: The most frustrating player : Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:44 pm  
secondstanza wrote:
Have I missed something or has it not been made official that Burgess is going?


Not sure if it is official or not but he is joining Salford.
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Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:23 am  
It was the right decision by Wigan.

He's been immense recently, but that's after a long period of being mediocre / losing his job.

I gather he's on a big wage too.
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Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:19 am  
P-J wrote:
It was the right decision by Wigan.

He's been immense recently, but that's after a long period of being mediocre / losing his job.

I gather he's on a big wage too.


Immense?? Really
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Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:36 am  
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Immense?? Really


Done more than Manfredi has since his return!
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Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:24 am  
Joe Burgess is a very good player and certainly better than hype jobs like Marshall or Grace for example.

He's got size and a solid skill set which means, even when he's coasting, he's a valuable player to have around.
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Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:31 am  
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Joe Burgess is a very good player and certainly better than hype jobs like Marshall or Grace for example.

He's got size and a solid skill set which means, even when he's coasting, he's a valuable player to have around.


Not sure thats very fair on Marshall. Hes done very well for Wigan
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Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:35 am  
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Not sure thats very fair on Marshall. Hes done very well for Wigan


He's been fantastic in attack, but poor in defence imo.

I'd happily lose his few moments of magic, for a more rounded player that gives his centre partner confidence.
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Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:06 am  
His defence has improved massively. I was always in the Davies > Marshall camp based on their defence but fair play to him he has clearly worked on it.
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Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:22 am  
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He's been fantastic in attack, but poor in defence imo.

I'd happily lose his few moments of magic, for a more rounded player that gives his centre partner confidence.


I think that was true a season or 2 ago but the difference between then and now is marked in my opinion. He has improved his defense an awful lot since his first season in the first team

Do i think Burgess is the better player? Yes. But only when he can be bothered. Effort isnt the only thing that should be considered but its a big part of the equation for me. Jist look at Isa as a good example
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Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:47 am  
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I think that was true a season or 2 ago but the difference between then and now is marked in my opinion. He has improved his defense an awful lot since his first season in the first team

Do i think Burgess is the better player? Yes. But only when he can be bothered. Effort isnt the only thing that should be considered but its a big part of the equation for me. Jist look at Isa as a good example


He has improved, but for me he's still a way off what I'd expect for a starting winger in our first team. This isn't aimed at you btw, but I genuinely despair when I see fans being happy with starting players who have some major flaws in their games.

I'll always hold the belief that if you're a regular starter at Wigan then you should be at a certain level with your game and certainly not have any major flaws. Every number from 1 - 13 in the Wigan team has, at some point, been given to some of the best players to ever play the game. Now I'm not saying we can have a Boston, Robinson or Richards every year, but we should have at least have a player that doesn't have a major weakness.

That may seem harsh, but I think we've all been guilty of accepting slipping standards when it comes to what constitutes a Wigan player.
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