Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:21 am  

Pre-lockdown Marshall was the form winger in the league IMO

Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:47 am  

Grimmy wrote:

Pre-lockdown Marshall was the form winger in the league IMO

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Watch the Wakey game again as an example. He scores a cracker, but is all over the shop for two of their trys (simple walk-ins as he bunched in on the centre).

Form in attack - possibly, but there's more to the game than being a good finisher.

Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:16 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Watch the Wakey game again as an example. He scores a cracker, but is all over the shop for two of their trys (simple walk-ins as he bunched in on the centre).

Form in attack - possibly, but there's more to the game than being a good finisher.

We're in danger of going off topic, but having just watched those tries back I haven't a clue how you're blaming him for that last try. They had a 3 on 2, so he took the man furthest inside. If he doesn't do that then the centre scores. They should score every time in that situation (in fact teams tend to practice that exact drill in warmup).

The one before that is the team as a whole really, the line sits back. Farrell is slow to slide over which means Bibby lets his centre get to his outside shoulder. Marshall probably should have gone for the centre earlier or trusted Bibby to still deal with him (even though he had got to his outside), but his inside defenders have left him with work to do there.

Re: The most frustrating player : Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:02 pm  

Ruddy Duck wrote:

Done more than Manfredi has since his return!

Would you descride it as immense?

Re: The most frustrating player : Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:05 am  

Gareth Hock was the most frustrating Wigan player ever. On his day, he was the most devastating second rower in the world bar none ! He had skill to burn, ( but he didn't know it). But unfortunately for him, he screwed it all up. I've been watching Wigan since 1958. My parents since the late 1920's, and my grandparents since 1900 if not before, as my Grandad was born in 1883. Hock was good.

Re: The most frustrating player : Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:04 am  

JonnyBroad wrote:

Would you descride it as immense?

No,but in spite of not being a specialist winger, Bibby has played as well on the wing as Manfredi, who like I have said has not been as outstanding in the same way that he was prior to his injuries.

Could not have come at a worse time with Marshall getting a long term injury on top of Davies leaving for Catalan Dragons.

In my opinion, the club should be making a move to sign Johnstone from Wakefield Trinity before another top club beat them to it.

Re: The most frustrating player : Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:50 am  

fleabag wrote:

Gareth Hock was the most frustrating Wigan player ever. On his day, he was the most devastating second rower in the world bar none ! He had skill to burn, ( but he didn't know it). But unfortunately for him, he screwed it all up. I've been watching Wigan since 1958. My parents since the late 1920's, and my grandparents since 1900 if not before, as my Grandad was born in 1883. Hock was good.

Never won any honours I don't think.

Re: The most frustrating player : Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:34 pm  

Ruddy Duck wrote:

No,but in spite of not being a specialist winger, Bibby has played as well on the wing as Manfredi, who like I have said has not been as outstanding in the same way that he was prior to his injuries.

Could not have come at a worse time with Marshall getting a long term injury on top of Davies leaving for Catalan Dragons.

In my opinion, the club should be making a move to sign Johnstone from Wakefield Trinity before another top club beat them to it.

He signed a 4 year deal and has 2 to go on it left

Re: The most frustrating player : Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:51 pm  

fleabag wrote:

Gareth Hock was the most frustrating Wigan player ever. On his day, he was the most devastating second rower in the world bar none ! He had skill to burn, ( but he didn't know it). But unfortunately for him, he screwed it all up. I've been watching Wigan since 1958. My parents since the late 1920's, and my grandparents since 1900 if not before, as my Grandad was born in 1883. Hock was good.

Couldnt agree more

Re: The most frustrating player : Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:05 pm  

MattyB wrote:

Never won any honours I don't think.

Just the LLS in 2012.