Re: George Williams : Thu May 06, 2021 12:55 pm  

Field may be unlucky due to the timing. We can’t pass up the opportunity to get Williams back for possibly the rest of his career on the basis that it’ll hold back an unproven Aussie, who is here to try and make a name for himself over a couple of seasons before heading back to Oz as a starter.

I think French will follow Hastings out the door anyway and with Gildart likely to leave, I think that’ll possibly see chances for Field at fullback, as well as at stand off because Hardaker may be needed to cover those centre spots on occasion (and we’ll need to sign at least one).

Taking an opportunity to get Williams back is a no brainer for me.

Re: George Williams : Thu May 06, 2021 1:32 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Field may be unlucky due to the timing. We can’t pass up the opportunity to get Williams back for possibly the rest of his career on the basis that it’ll hold back an unproven Aussie, who is here to try and make a name for himself over a couple of seasons before heading back to Oz as a starter.

I think French will follow Hastings out the door anyway and with Gildart likely to leave, I think that’ll possibly see chances for Field at fullback, as well as at stand off because Hardaker may be needed to cover those centre spots on occasion (and we’ll need to sign at least one).

Taking an opportunity to get Williams back is a no brainer for me.

William's is a no brainer really. IF he returns then, you'd like to think that he stays for 5+ years. Field is a gamble in that he might be great and he might equally be shocking. Either way he won't be here longer than 2 or 3 seasons max (he's roughly said the same himself).

French is the difficult one imo. I didn't realise that he has an extra one year option (which might be in his favour). I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think he'd get a gig at FB in the NRL. A quick tot up and there's probably 13 NRL sides out of 16 that either have better FB's than French, or long term prospects in situ. There's not many options to go as a starter and he'll be on good money here too.

Re: George Williams : Thu May 06, 2021 2:17 pm  

I think the option is in the favour of French. It’s the weird situation we now find ourselves in that the worse he plays, the more chance we have of keeping him. The better he plays, the more he puts himself in the shop window. They’ll not be rushing out to offer him a deal based on last Thursday but I expect if we move him to fullback and he starts performing, an opening in the NRL would crop up at some point.

He’s very understated French off the field, so he’s difficult to read. He doesn’t do a lot of talking to the press or posting on social media, so for all I know he might sign up for another few years. It would be handy if he did because as much as it may not be his favourite position, the club might be in desperate need of Hardaker playing centre in 2021, with Gildart likely to leave.

Re: George Williams : Thu May 06, 2021 3:49 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Field may be unlucky due to the timing. We can’t pass up the opportunity to get Williams back for possibly the rest of his career on the basis that it’ll hold back an unproven Aussie, who is here to try and make a name for himself over a couple of seasons before heading back to Oz as a starter.

I think French will follow Hastings out the door anyway and with Gildart likely to leave, I think that’ll possibly see chances for Field at fullback, as well as at stand off because Hardaker may be needed to cover those centre spots on occasion (and we’ll need to sign at least one).

Taking an opportunity to get Williams back is a no brainer for me.

What if the finances say Williams or a prop?
Don't get me wrong I'm a big Williams fan but what if its him or a top nrl prop with French and Field remaining?
I'm just suggesting it may not be a slam dunk.

Re: George Williams : Thu May 06, 2021 4:33 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

What if the finances say Williams or a prop?
Don't get me wrong I'm a big Williams fan but what if its him or a top nrl prop with French and Field remaining?
I'm just suggesting it may not be a slam dunk.

I'd take Williams.

I don't believe this "top prop" that we need is actually available. Looking at who's available, there's no one that either jumps out or fits the bill. The "big names" are probably Aaron Woods, Napa and Tolman. There's also Corey Jensen and Max King (I believe we've previously been linked with both).

William's + a good prop would improve us.

Re: George Williams : Thu May 06, 2021 4:47 pm  

As much as we really need an experienced yardage prop if it is a choice between Williams and a prop without a shadow of a doubt I’d take Williams.

If there’s an opportunity to bring him home on a long term deal we have to try and take it. Hastings is going so there is a half spot open, yes we have field but he is untested and likely to go home in a year or to. It would hopefully give us long term stability in the halves.

Next year Partington, Byrne, Harvard, Shorrocks etc will be a year older and have more experience. We’d be ok up front.

Re: George Williams : Thu May 06, 2021 4:57 pm  

Trainman wrote:

As much as we really need an experienced yardage prop if it is a choice between Williams and a prop without a shadow of a doubt I’d take Williams.

If there’s an opportunity to bring him home on a long term deal we have to try and take it. Hastings is going so there is a half spot open, yes we have field but he is untested and likely to go home in a year or to. It would hopefully give us long term stability in the halves.

Next year Partington, Byrne, Harvard, Shorrocks etc will be a year older and have more experience. We’d be ok up front.

There will be natural progression of those props and I don’t think you need to spend the earth to find a couple of decent ones from down under.

I just think if we can get a spine locked down for a number of years in Hardaker, Williams, Smith, Powell and Bateman then you have a long term advantage over your rivals. If we look at Saints spine, Coote is nearly ready for retirement, as is Roby, Lomax is older than any of our potential 5, Fages is always rumoured to be leaving and I could see Knowles wanting a crack at the NRL within 2 or 3 years.

Re: George Williams : Thu May 06, 2021 6:13 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

What if the finances say Williams or a prop?
Don't get me wrong I'm a big Williams fan but what if its him or a top nrl prop with French and Field remaining?
I'm just suggesting it may not be a slam dunk.

As everyone else has said, Williams. NRL props tend to come over here already burned out anyway.

Re: George Williams : Fri May 07, 2021 8:18 am  

Warrington are favourites according to the Canberra Times apparently. I don’t think they have any evidence of that from what I read and it seems like they jumped on the back of the comments of Wire being interested from the NRL show on Aussie tv.

Re: George Williams : Fri May 07, 2021 8:45 am  

Wigan said they have first refusal on Williams if he comes back - does anyone know what this actually means in practice?