Re: George Williams : Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:31 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

Just because your place of work would chase you through the courts, doesn’t mean Wigan should. I also never said GW didn’t sign purely for money so why you’ve tried to put a strange Bibby comparison in there is beyond me. You might want to start reading and taking in what I’m saying properly..

Why shouldn't we take him to court? Should Leeds not have taken Bradford to court, or should Cas not have done what they did to Solomona?

Also your direct wording was "didn’t do enough/can’t afford to bring back GW.". How do you know they couldn't afford him? What if they could afford him, but didn't think he was worth it? Hence my comment about Bibby. There's a world of difference between not being able to afford something and not wanting to pay more than you should.

I'm not even going to bother with the rest. As plenty of people have pointed out - you, me or anyone else have no idea who we're targeting. There's only been one target that we can 100% be sure about and that's GW. The rest are rumours and speculation. I'll happily have an opinion once everything is complete, otherwise it's pretty pointless.

Re: George Williams : Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:09 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Give your head a wobble. Everyone in the week accused me of not being in the real world and needing to look at this from a business POV. Imagine if this happened in the real world and you broke any other kind of contract that you'd signed.

The club (by the sounds of it) had a legally binding deal, which they could have taken him to court over. Someone mentioned the Harris Leeds/Bradford deal. Another example might also be Solomona too.

It looks like the rat has been very lucky that they club haven't claimed damages over this. Reading comments like yours & others about how it 'appears' the club is on a decline, people not renewing season tickets, plus the fact Wire are a competitor means the club would have a pretty strong case.

We should 100% have taken him to court. Just like Leeds did and just like Cas did.

You don't sound very confident about this "legally binding deal". Maybe any agreement was as legally binding as the one Wigan had with Shaun Edwards.

Re: George Williams : Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:34 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

In what alternative reality are you trying to suggest that Toby King isn't a Warrington Academy product

Depends what you class as a "product of" considering he was signed from another club's academy. I wouldn't be surprised if he spent more time in Huddersfield's academy than Warrington's considering it wasn't long until he was promoted to first team.

Re: George Williams : Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:06 pm  

Wigg'n wrote: Depends what you class as a "product of" considering he was signed from another club's academy. I wouldn't be surprised if he spent more time in Huddersfield's academy than Warrington's considering it wasn't long until he was promoted to first team. You do know that it is Toby not George who has been selected for England? https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... ld-6869764

Wigg'n wrote: Depends what you class as a "product of" considering he was signed from another club's academy. I wouldn't be surprised if he spent more time in Huddersfield's academy than Warrington's considering it wasn't long until he was promoted to first team. You do know that it is Toby not George who has been selected for England? https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... ld-6869764

Re: George Williams : Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:01 pm  

Slating of GW over this is ridiculous…

1. Possibly better money at Warrington.

2. Certainly a better (and new) challenge at Warrington.

3. Great opportunity to raise his rep further in a different environment.

4. Chance to work with a coach who I personally think coaches a side in such a manner that GW would run riot if all goes well.

5. Maybe/almost certainly not really a signing we (IL/KR) wanted or needed to make for loads of reasons (big wages regardless of what others were offering, squad investment more important in other positions, etc etc).

I don’t believe for a minute if it didn’t suit our agenda we wouldn’t make more of a fuss about the breaking of this “agreement”.

Watch him sign for Leeds now!

Re: George Williams : Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:25 pm  

Wigan have allowed Williams to sign for another SL club. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/57534630

Wigan have allowed Williams to sign for another SL club. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/57534630

Re: George Williams : Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:46 pm  

Having first option isn't a legal binding agreement that he must sign for us. It just means we speak to him first. The legal bit must be in the last week because as i believed it he was a 95% signed sealed and delivered Wigan player but Warrington stuck a huge 11th hour offer into him. It must be something to do with that. Who cares anyway, we have much bigger problems than a vastly overrated HB.

Re: George Williams : Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:04 pm  

Paul Youane wrote: You do know that it is Toby not George who has been selected for England? https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... ld-6869764 Fair point I did but always thought Toby was the older one for some reason.

Paul Youane wrote: You do know that it is Toby not George who has been selected for England? https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... ld-6869764 Fair point I did but always thought Toby was the older one for some reason.

Re: George Williams : Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:43 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Why shouldn't we take him to court? Should Leeds not have taken Bradford to court, or should Cas not have done what they did to Solomona?

Who wins? No one. Other than for some bitters to grin on the couch and go “take that ye little barstool” if we got the ruling in our favour? Nah.

Also your direct wording was "didn’t do enough/can’t afford to bring back GW.". How do you know they couldn't afford him? What if they could afford him, but didn't think he was worth it? Hence my comment about Bibby. There's a world of difference between not being able to afford something and not wanting to pay more than you should.

I don’t, like you don’t. But if you look at who we’re being linked with, who we’re letting go and what coach and back room staff we’re still running with the “can’t afford him” comment rings true. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. Unlike some I’ve no qualms about saying I was wrong about something. Your comment about Bibby is still a bizarre comparison however way you want to try and spin it now and you know it.

I'm not even going to bother with the rest. As plenty of people have pointed out - you, me or anyone else have no idea who we're targeting. There's only been one target that we can 100% be sure about and that's GW. The rest are rumours and speculation. I'll happily have an opinion once everything is complete, otherwise it's pretty pointless.

Sound.

Re: George Williams : Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:57 am  

[Gareth] wrote:

He sure did rofl

No doubt GW to wigan was a done deal...

I let him off the hook. Not for the first time I’ve saved him his money.
Although if he’d had pm’d me for a bet, I’d have raised the stakes.