Re: Wane to comeback? : Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:43 am  

I’ve been as frustrated as anybody these past two and a half years and certainly this year the glaring gap in quality in the front row is really hurting us and even then we’ve finished 2nd, 1st and now sit 3rd with 7 wins from 8. We’ve done that with a coach who IMO is out of his depth. We lose some quality players for next season but even ‘if’ the recruitment ends up being uninspiring, as long as we get a half decent coach we’ll knock out a top 6 place in our sleep. The league is dreadful at the minute and it’s what makes these past few seasons extra frustrating.

Re: Wane to comeback? : Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:05 am  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Go on I’ll humour you… do you think we can compete with Saints and Wire next season if we don’t bring in two experienced props and quality replacements for Hastings and Gildart?

No chance.

Re: Wane to comeback? : Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:22 am  

Wait a minute, compete with us?

We're losing Hill if rumours are true. That leaves us with Cooper, Philbin, Mulhern, Butler and potentially Bullock who you guys dont want or rate as our props. We are in need of better props.

By all accounts we are having a mass clear out. Akuala, Inglis, Widdop, Austin, Mamo, and Lineham all going if correct. With Matautia, Holmes, Bullock and Williams coming in if rumours are true.

What it shows is, all clubs are unhappy with squads and want more quality. Saints are probably the only ones happy....

Re: Wane to comeback? : Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:01 am  

Jukesays wrote:

There have been a couple of posters who one said we would be bottom half, and another who said we'd be bottom 4

I think it is possible we could finish in the bottom half this season if we lose our next two games.
A poor coach, a lightweight workmanlike pack and lack of spontaneous players means every game becomes an arm wrestle where we have as much chance of losing as winning.
If we start poorly again tomorrow we could be in for another long night. Hopefully Hastings Farrell and Bateman will step up and drag us back to some sort of form.

I obviously missed the posts on next year but I’m quietly confident that a new coach and an improved and better balanced squad will be in place for a big push.

Re: Wane to comeback? : Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:21 am  

It’s interesting to see some of the quotes aimed at Lam are very reminiscent of Shaun Wane.

Yes he had some fantastic successes (which Lam clearly hasn’t had) but they both share criticism of style of play, some baffling losses and failure to provide bodies to give us a better go forward despite both identifying size as an issue.

For what it’s worth I was pleasantly surprised by our style of play under Lam
last year and at the start of this year, however something now doesn’t seem to be clicking and I wouldn’t be against a change.

Personally if what is being reported is true Wane may be coming back in a Director of Rugby role part time I wouldn’t be against it however I think if Lam were to go he would need to be replaced be someone with new ideas.

Having Wane come in to work with Peat and Locky concerns me because they know each other so well and have formed their rugby philosophies together, over years of working together.

I would hope we can bring in a strong strong headed innovative coach not afraid to shake things up.

Re: Wane to comeback? : Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:04 am  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

The way it’s going, it’ll be Matty Peet!

I posted on Redvee back in October that I had been told by a Wigan employee that Peet was basically being groomed as the next head coach after Lam. Not heard anything to the contrary since.

Re: Wane to comeback? : Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:30 am  

I’d be happy with Matty Peet working alongside/under Shaun Wane. He’s been cutting his teeth in coaching for a long time and has experience here and in Union. It was no coincidence that our form picked up massively last season when he came back IMO. I’ve heard people talk in very good terms about him and he could have no finer support than having Shaun Wane there. It’s very unusual in Rugby League for a coach to have not had a top level playing career but in football we’ve seen the best managers in many cases didn’t have that, so I don’t see that as an issue.

Re: Wane to comeback? : Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:55 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I’d be happy with Matty Peet working alongside/under Shaun Wane. He’s been cutting his teeth in coaching for a long time and has experience here and in Union. It was no coincidence that our form picked up massively last season when he came back IMO. I’ve heard people talk in very good terms about him and he could have no finer support than having Shaun Wane there. It’s very unusual in Rugby League for a coach to have not had a top level playing career but in football we’ve seen the best managers in many cases didn’t have that, so I don’t see that as an issue.

Funny how people hear things differently. I heard the complete opposite from a few guys I know with connections to Sale. Let's just say they moved him on quite quickly.

Re: Wane to comeback? : Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:07 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Funny how people hear things differently. I heard the complete opposite from a few guys I know with connections to Sale. Let's just say they moved him on quite quickly.

Who knows either way. There will always be people who have good and bad opinions on people and their ability. I knew people who knew Shaun Wane years ago who thought it was hilarious when he got a job working with the juniors. Safe to say they’ll have been shocked with his progression.

Re: Wane to comeback? : Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:30 pm  

Wonder what wane was thinking watching that??