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Re: Decisive Action : Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:04 am  
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This isn’t hyperbole but on Good Friday we genuinely could be looking at 11 v 11

With a capacity crowd and a hostile atmosphere it could happen.


If they carry on with the bans that 11 v 11 might be from kick off!
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Re: Decisive Action : Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:10 am  
I’m going to Hudds today with my eldest lad. He’s 13 and wants to tick off the away grounds now like I did at a similar age. He’s been to Wigan, Salford and Leeds and now obviously wants to do more.

However there’s a very real chance the game could be ruined by a controversial decision. Granted we are no angels but there’s a real worry in me that a Sironen/Matautia walks early doors and it’s game over.

It’s a strange feeling going to games at the moment
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Re: Decisive Action : Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:27 am  
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I mostly agree with this. I'd argue that player welfare is important, but it's also plain that the best and surest way to protect players is for them not to participate at all.

It's their choice. As it always has been.

No one is forced to play rugby league. And anyone who says they didn't know how dangerous it was is simply lying. They shouldn't even be given the time of day, never mind be allowed to put a court case together.

In all honesty, I don't know what rankles with me more: the fact this is happening just when we were entering a new age of mass publicity, or the names of some of the players who are causing it.

You talk about two-bit troublemakers. That doesn't even come close to describing them.



Sadly, like so much usualy does, it comes down to money. Some ex-players and grubby lawyers have a sniff of getting a big payout and hang the consequences - if it destroys the game which gave them a living originally then that doesn't bother their conscience one iota (assuming they have one).

Both codes of rugby are going the the same way (with RU a bit further along) - as a consequence of the blame someone else culture and the contant using of the latest information and current hand-wringing thiking to apply to the past (happening in so many areas not just sport). Sadly RL is too small in this country - if the ex-players win big then it could be disastorous.

Sport is about entertainment - that is something that a lot of sports are loosing sight of.
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Re: Decisive Action : Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:59 am  
Is there still a "sending off sufficient" option in the disciplinary ?
It will be absolutely shocking if Nu Brown gets a ban on top of that sending off.
He's made a brilliant statement about last night
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/there-ha ... WA4G2s3hIE
Is there still a "sending off sufficient" option in the disciplinary ?
It will be absolutely shocking if Nu Brown gets a ban on top of that sending off.
He's made a brilliant statement about last night
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/there-ha ... WA4G2s3hIE
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Re: Decisive Action : Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:10 pm  
When you hear about the insurance issues, it’s clearly a money problem and we don’t have the finance to make it go away. I look at football and they started making a thing of concussions last year but even when players clashed heads or looked dazed from an elbow or similar they didn’t really bother doing anything, even though they’d brought in new protocols. This season I hear nothing of it whatsoever. It’s just brushed under the carpet and I can only think the lack of a threat of financial oblivion makes it easy to turn a blind eye.

It’s been much the same for years with things like recreational drugs use. Rugby League players picking up bans of 2 years here and there, whereas football players must have all been squeaky clean and living an athletes life…honest! The same goes for legal cases, were trials miraculously fall apart or not guilty verdicts come through against all odds. A certain player from a Merseyside club was accused of a crime around 18 months ago and seems to have just disappeared of the face of the earth since and it doesn’t get spoke of. I’m in no way one of those conspiracy theory nuts but I’ve no doubt money is helping.

Rugby League looks to be an easy target for ambulance chasers and insurance companies. How we break that is anyone’s guess. A breakaway league? The NRL taking us over? Player waivers? Not a clue tbh but I hope somebody has.
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Re: Decisive Action : Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:16 pm  
apollosghost wrote:
Is there still a "sending off sufficient" option in the disciplinary ?
It will be absolutely shocking if Nu Brown gets a ban on top of that sending off.
He's made a brilliant statement about last night
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/there-ha ... WA4G2s3hIE


He puts it very well, and somehow manages to keep a lid on his emotions.

The line in the sand has to come before 2025. That will be the point of no return.
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Is there still a "sending off sufficient" option in the disciplinary ?
It will be absolutely shocking if Nu Brown gets a ban on top of that sending off.
He's made a brilliant statement about last night
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/there-ha ... WA4G2s3hIE


He puts it very well, and somehow manages to keep a lid on his emotions.

The line in the sand has to come before 2025. That will be the point of no return.
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Re: Decisive Action : Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:33 pm  
Stu M wrote:
I’m going to Hudds today with my eldest lad. He’s 13 and wants to tick off the away grounds now like I did at a similar age. He’s been to Wigan, Salford and Leeds and now obviously wants to do more.

However there’s a very real chance the game could be ruined by a controversial decision. Granted we are no angels but there’s a real worry in me that a Sironen/Matautia walks early doors and it’s game over.

It’s a strange feeling going to games at the moment


The sad fact is that many games will no longer be decided by skill. Something needs to change fast or the majority of rugby fans will become disillusioned.
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Re: Decisive Action : Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:15 pm  
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The sad fact is that many games will no longer be decided by skill. Something needs to change fast or the majority of rugby fans will become disillusioned.


Two things professional sport needs, players and spectators and the governing body is currently alienating both groups, as Nu Brown says above it really is line in the sand time

Edit, match day officials as well, the refs must be dreading going on to the field
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Re: Decisive Action : Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:52 pm  
Jon Wilkin raised a good point yesterday, why don't they do what RU do, sin bin the player and it gives 10 minutes to review the decision, if it is bad, the card gets changed, and the player cant return. it takes the crowd out of the equation, and allows refs to take time to decide if its a red or not.

its not perfect but if they make a mistake its a sin bin at worst
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Re: Decisive Action : Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:17 pm  
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ommunities

Can't say i disagree with any of that.

Good to see people from all area's of the game speaking out about this.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ommunities

Can't say i disagree with any of that.

Good to see people from all area's of the game speaking out about this.
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