: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:35 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

I couldn't make it today to be honest I don't know if I could of made it through all of it, only saw the end part on tv and that was enough to set me off.

It's on LFC tv now, lot's of people would have lost one if not two family members, amazing turnout from the Liverpool public.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:36 pm  

To this day not one single Liverpool fan has ever stood up and admitted that they were at Hillsborough that day without a ticket

And yet we know there were hundreds if not thousands

When that happens the whole truth will be known

Yes the police officer in charge made a big mistake , but he was put in that position by a large number of Liverpool fans , it could have been any of a number of other clubs , anybody who went to those type of matches in the 70,s and 80,s knows what used to happen

Unfortunatley the ones that died were the ones that should have been there , hopefully one day just one of the people who know in their hearts the contribution they made to the disaster will hold their hand up and admit it

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:40 pm  

Starbug wrote:

To this day not one single Liverpool fan has ever stood up and admitted that they were at Hillsborough that day without a ticket

And yet we know there were hundreds if not thousands
When that happens the whole truth will be known

Yes the police officer in charge made a big mistake , but he was put in that position by a large number of Liverpool fans , it could have been any of a number of other clubs , anybody who went to those type of matches in the 70,s and 80,s knows what used to happen

Unfortunatley the ones that died were the ones that should have been there , hopefully one day just one of the people who know in their hearts the contribution they made to the disaster will hold their hand up and admit it

Who? you? back it up! then

At 3.05 when the tragedy was occurring the best estimate of numbers in the end is 9,734 against a capacity of 10,100

Ticketless fans had fcccuk all to do with it you liar.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:44 pm  

t-r-i-n-i-t-y wrote:

Now remind me which newspaper is related to Sky News and isn't bought on Merseyside.

What your point i only said it was on sky news aswell i didnt mean anything by it only to let people who may have wanted to watch it that it was on

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:48 pm  

Who is to blame is of no significance today in my opinion, isn't today about remembering those who died?

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:49 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

No ultimate cause was the police opening the gate to let fans into the already full central pens instead of directing them to the side ones with space in.

No without hooliganism the police would not have had a real role to play and may not even have been in the ground. There would have been no fences and if a crush develop it'd be a case of getting over a small wall onto the pitch.

Football and its supporters made the environment, police made the mistakes on the day.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:53 pm  

Tom Brady wrote:

Who is to blame is of no significance today in my opinion, isn't today about remembering those who died?

The 96 who died deserve justice.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:56 pm  

espanyolswan wrote:

No without hooliganism the police would not have had a real role to play and may not even have been in the ground. There would have been no fences and if a crush develop it'd be a case of getting over a small wall onto the pitch.

Football and its supporters made the environment, police made the mistakes on the day.

My point is that if the police had done there job right 96 fans would have come home, the year before 1988 same ground same teams different police, in the ground on the terrace there was merseyside police directing fans away from the central pens once full in 1989 this did not happen.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:58 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

The 96 who died deserve justice.

Do you know alot about Heysel? I'm asking that as I don't.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:05 pm  

Tom Brady wrote:

Do you know alot about Heysel? I'm asking that as I don't.

Your a WUM if you want to know about Heysel google it.