Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:04 pm  

Everton are having a nightmare today. The Fer deal, if it was ever a genuine deal and not just a PR exercise, was the one they were hoping for. They then claimed to be after a few other players. The papers and Sky went for Negredo, but that was surely never a realistic deal.

If ever there was a time Everton needed to do something, it's today. The club is holding onto a decent league position but will not stay there without additional bodies IMO. There is no depth at all anywhere on the field. I don't think I've ever seen a club with as few senior players as Everton have. No depth at the back, criminally lacking depth in midfield and with only 2 strikers, one of which is utterly useless and the other in utterly useless form. The club then goes and ships Barkley off to Leeds on loan and today is supposedly sending Magaye Gueye out on loan as well.

I can't understand how Everton can have £8.5m spare for the Fer deal and yet don't have the finances to bring in any of the many players that have moved to Newcastle recently. There are also tons of loan deals going on that would be of huge benefit to Everton, if only in terms of depth.

Howard, Baines, Jagielka, Distin, Fellaini, Osman, Neville, Gibson, Pienaar and Jelavic are going to be very tired come the end of the season.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:10 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

If he's giving Samba £100,000 a week, one can only imagine Odemwingie would be due a significant pay rise as well. These players don't care about the football, they don't care about relegation. You give a man a couple of million and £20k more a week and he'd move to pretty much anywhere. That is why Odemwingie is so utterly desperate to move, despite the move being to a joke of a club which is going to be relegated and probably experience significant financial trouble next season.

In contrast to that, it's good to see Butland choosing Stoke over Chelsea. With Begovic probably off in the summer, he's chosen first team football next season (after being loaned back to Birmingham) over money and a comfy seat on the bench.

Also, what are Villa doing?! Signed a young lad from Spurs on loan, who's never played for the first team, and a lad from Clermont. Do they really expect to stay up when they sign players like that? A few years ago Villa and Spurs were on par, Villa had the likes of Milner, Barry, Downing, Young, Friedel, etc and were competing for Europe. I'd go as far as saying, one of the worst premier league teams of all time.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:12 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

Getting a bit messy with Odemwingie now.

Did not expect that from him, doesn't seem the type

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:14 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Everton are having a nightmare today. The Fer deal, if it was ever a genuine deal and not just a PR exercise, was the one they were hoping for. They then claimed to be after a few other players. The papers and Sky went for Negredo, but that was surely never a realistic deal.

If ever there was a time Everton needed to do something, it's today. The club is holding onto a decent league position but will not stay there without additional bodies IMO. There is no depth at all anywhere on the field. I don't think I've ever seen a club with as few senior players as Everton have. No depth at the back, criminally lacking depth in midfield and with only 2 strikers, one of which is utterly useless and the other in utterly useless form. The club then goes and ships Barkley off to Leeds on loan and today is supposedly sending Magaye Gueye out on loan as well.

I can't understand how Everton can have £8.5m spare for the Fer deal and yet don't have the finances to bring in any of the many players that have moved to Newcastle recently. There are also tons of loan deals going on that would be of huge benefit to Everton, if only in terms of depth.

Howard, Baines, Jagielka, Distin, Fellaini, Osman, Neville, Gibson, Pienaar and Jelavic are going to be very tired come the end of the season.

.....Typical over reaction from somebody else suckered in by the hype of the transfer deadline day.

Personally, I think the whole shambles should be abolished - We should have either no transfers during the season, or go back to the old days of transfers at any time (aside from the late deadline around Easter time).

The facts for Everton are simple - We don't have much cash, so when we do spend, we have to make sure we get players we actually want and need, and not players simply being hawked about my greedy agents.

As for players being tired?....Don't give me that nonsense, its 90 minutes of football a week, not 50 or 60 hours down a mine...

Also, your list of tired players includes Gibson??... ......Are you joking, th guy's had his feet up most of the season - Him and Mirallas should be fresh as a daisy, and throw in Oviedo, a signing we haven't actually used, and you have a little 'freshness' to help those poor tiring legs....

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:15 pm  

100% Wire wrote:

Did not expect that from him, doesn't seem the type

He's been shooting his mouth off on twitter, pushing for a move but it seems a bit reckless, driving to Loftus Road to try and sort out a deal

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:16 pm  

St. Rughead wrote:

In contrast to that, it's good to see Butland choosing Stoke over Chelsea. With Begovic probably off in the summer, he's chosen first team football next season (after being loaned back to Birmingham) over money and a comfy seat on the bench.

I was pleased with that too, certain Mr Sinclair and Mr Rodwell didn't obviously share the same view

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:21 pm  

100% Wire wrote:

I was pleased with that too, certain Mr Sinclair and Mr Rodwell didn't obviously share the same view

I love it dream moves don't quite work out

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:36 pm  

St. Rughead wrote:

He's been shooting his mouth off on twitter, pushing for a move but it seems a bit reckless, driving to Loftus Road to try and sort out a deal

I've just got a picture in my head of him going from window to window, knocking: 'Hello, can I come in? Do you keep the sacks of cash here?'

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:42 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

:lol: .....Typical over reaction from somebody else suckered in by the hype of the transfer deadline day.

Personally, I think the whole shambles should be abolished - We should have either no transfers during the season, or go back to the old days of transfers at any time (aside from the late deadline around Easter time).

The facts for Everton are simple - We don't have much cash, so when we do spend, we have to make sure we get players we actually want and need, and not players simply being hawked about my greedy agents.

As for players being tired?....Don't give me that nonsense, its 90 minutes of football a week, not 50 or 60 hours down a mine...

Also, your list of tired players includes Gibson??... ......Are you joking, th guy's had his feet up most of the season - Him and Mirallas should be fresh as a daisy, and throw in Oviedo, a signing we haven't actually used, and you have a little 'freshness' to help those poor tiring legs....

How is it an overreaction? An overreaction would be to claim we'll be relegated or the world will end if we don't sign anyone. Everton are doing well to be 5th, but will struggle to maintain that. The money thing is interesting, I had assumed we wouldn't be doing any business in the window so was massively surprised to see the bid for Fer and realise that it wasn't just to allow Fellaini to leave.

The tired legs bit you laughed at it already happening. Have you seen Leon Osman play recently? He's in horrible form, being asked to do too much running in central midfield, in too deep a position. Everton need a player or two, particularly in central midfield.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:03 pm  

Going through the whole, long, season with just Torres and Sturridge (who we didn't play anyway)/Ba (who's got biscuit knees) up front?

I can't see any problem with that. Any problem at all.