Re: The Football Chat Thread : Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:09 pm  

to cheer up the scots here's a 'best of' team that would have qualified for the euros
1. goram
2. mcgrain
3. jardine
4. souness
5. miller
6. hansen
7. johnstone
8. strachan
9. law
10. dalgleish
11. gemmill

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:25 pm  

Ayre-brained scheme.

Ayre-brained scheme.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:17 pm  

Catalancs wrote: Ayre-brained scheme. Ayre is right. So are Barcelona and Real Madrid when they demand more because they're the main attraction. But it comes back to basically what I want, equality and competition. I hope we don't bring it in, even if Liverpool would benefit more, Man City would only go and sell their TV rights for X amount of billion. We should be looking to make a level playing field amongst our own league, not bridging the gap and trying to rival those who are effectively bullies within their own league.

Catalancs wrote: Ayre-brained scheme. Ayre is right. So are Barcelona and Real Madrid when they demand more because they're the main attraction. But it comes back to basically what I want, equality and competition. I hope we don't bring it in, even if Liverpool would benefit more, Man City would only go and sell their TV rights for X amount of billion. We should be looking to make a level playing field amongst our own league, not bridging the gap and trying to rival those who are effectively bullies within their own league.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:30 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

Ayre is right. So are Barcelona and Real Madrid when they demand more because they're the main attraction. But it comes back to basically what I want, equality and competition.

I hope we don't bring it in, even if Liverpool would benefit more, Man City would only go and sell their TV rights for X amount of billion. We should be looking to make a level playing field amongst our own league, not bridging the gap and trying to rival those who are effectively bullies within their own league.

He has a point, I'm not sure if it is the right thing to do. It'd open up football into a minefield, for me, it would be the wrong move. I think the distribution of overseas could be split differently, is it fair that a newly promoted team earn the same as Man United or Chelsea? probably not.

I also wouldn't want to see the problems they've had in Spain and Italy over the last couple of season's were the league goes on strike, football-less summers are bad enough without a delay each August.

Anyway, I don't know why Ayre is bringing it up Man Utd, City and Chelsea could sell their rights for more anyway

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:32 pm  

Dan_FC wrote:

Anyway, I don't know why Ayre is bringing it up Man Utd, City and Chelsea could sell their rights for more anyway

This is the oddest part of the fact Liverpool are the ones bringing it up for me.

They might do better financially out of individual rights, but it's likely Man Utd's deal would blow everybody else out of the water.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:52 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

Ayre is right. So are Barcelona and Real Madrid when they demand more because they're the main attraction. But it comes back to basically what I want, equality and competition.

I hope we don't bring it in, even if Liverpool would benefit more, Man City would only go and sell their TV rights for X amount of billion. We should be looking to make a level playing field amongst our own league, not bridging the gap and trying to rival those who are effectively bullies within their own league.

This is spot on. As a Utd fan even though we would probably benefit the most I wouldn't want to see it brought in. Would be the final nail in the coffin for some of the smaller clubs.

On a side note, whose idea was it to reduce Utds allocation for Saturday to 19 hundred tickets? Is there an Everton fan who fancied a laugh on the safety panel?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:08 pm  

the artist wrote:

to cheer up the scots here's a 'best of' team that would have qualified for the euros
1. goram
2. mcgrain
3. jardine
4. souness
5. miller
6. hansen
7. johnstone
8. strachan
9. law
10. dalgleish
11. gemmill

Could argue over the exclusion of Baxter, Crerand, Bremner, Mackay, McNeil, Jordan, McQueen, Buchan, Eddie Gray, etc, etc, etc. Not to forget lesser players such as Macari and Hartford that would walk into the current Scotland team. Scotland always struggled with a lack of strength in depth but until recent times could produce plenty of quality individual players, apart from goalkeepers.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:17 pm  

Asim wrote:

This is the oddest part of the fact Liverpool are the ones bringing it up for me.

They might do better financially out of individual rights, but it's likely Man Utd's deal would blow everybody else out of the water.

Exactly right, mate. I think it would be City and United who'd be streets ahead of the others, mainly United. Although Liverpool would benefit from it they still wouldn't be the best off.

When he started talking about fans in Kuala Lumpur not tuning into watch Bolton and more likely Liverpool it came across he was more interested in the brand of Liverpool and the fans in KL rather than the football and the fans over here.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:14 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

Could argue over the exclusion of Baxter, Crerand, Bremner, Mackay, McNeil, Jordan, McQueen, Buchan, Eddie Gray, etc, etc, etc. Not to forget lesser players such as Macari and Hartford that would walk into the current Scotland team. Scotland always struggled with a lack of strength in depth but until recent times could produce plenty of quality individual players, apart from goalkeepers.

i know, i thought about including several of those, and you have the likes of macallister, nevin and mcleish (and duncan ferguson if he hadn't fallen out with the manager) to name just a few more in contention. it was said that in the late 70s early 80s that every successful english div 1 team needed several scots in it. was a real pity that they could never get quality in all positions all at the same time - late 70s probably their best shot at this in my lifetime. shame they screwed up their group in 1978

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:27 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

Buchan

Which Buchan is this? My mum used to have an uncle called Willie Buchan who played for Celtic and Blackpool around the war period. Same fella?