Re: NFL Chat 3 : Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:05 pm  

RedTez wrote:

Don't know if I agree with that. I wouldn't be surprised to see them take Suh. He's going to be a dominant DT in the NFL for years. As important as it is to have a top QB, there's always next year, where they'll inevitably be picking high. Suh is that good, that any team would be stupid not to take a good, long look at him.

It wouldn't suprise me to see them take Suh but they'd be wrong for a number of reasons.

Glenn Dorsey was rated as an all time tackle and he hasn't really panned out. DT's taken in the top 10 generally struggle. Raji, Dorsey, Ellis, Okeye, Dewane Robinson, Jonathon Sullivan, K. Williams, Ryan Sims, John Henderson. That is the DT's taken in the top 10 since 2002. Only Okeye, K. Williams and Henderson have done anything. Suh is rated better than them all (and possibly will pan out to be better) but there is no guarantee and you need a QB.

QB is more high profile and will get more bums in seats and sell jerseys, something St. Louis need. You need an excellent QB win more than you need an excellent DT.

Already spent the last 3 first round picks on lineman. Carriker, Long and Smith. Carriker and Long on the D line have hardly improved the Rams that much. Why not give Smith, last years pick something to protect.

Of the top 16 teams (by records) 11 had first round picks at QB. 9 of 12 in the playoffs had a first round QB (Brees was 32nd in a 31 pick year).

Not only that...Clausen just had probably the BEST EVER season of a junior QB. Suh will be extremely good, possibly a Warren Sapp type DT, but they are crazy to not go Clausen IMO.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:52 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

In respect of my opinion, based on what i've seen this year.

Brady has not been as good this year as previous (due to the injury?), and Schaub has cut out a number of his mistakes which cost them in previous years.

Schaub lost his second best weapon half way through the year in Owen Daniels and still managed to lead the league in passing yards whereas Brady lost his second best weapon in Welker and looked poor in the playoff game.

I just think he has performed better than Brady this year and should be in the play-offs if the Jets didn't have the benefit of two teams lying down for them in the last two weeks. (I think if the Jets get beaten in one of those then the Texans are in). Thats not to detract from what the Jets have done once they have made it.

Schaub>Rodgers then surely?

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:53 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I stand by the Colts by 14-17.

Nearly mate.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:54 pm  

Apparantly Manning's Pro Bowl replacement is...

David Garrard

Schaub starts, VY is #2 and Garrard is #3.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:00 pm  

I hope the Rams don't take Suh, because that means we will and we need him

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:01 pm  

Hollywood Harrigan wrote:

I hope the Rams don't take Suh, because that means we will and we need him

Assuming the Lions don't get there before you.

I wouldn't mind Mad Al trading up to get Suh.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:27 pm  

The Lions wont take Suh. The D line is the least of thier worries

We have never been close to replacing Warren Sapp though and he made us tick. I would be great to have a Sapp Mk.2

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:31 pm  

V For Vendetta wrote:

Apparantly Manning's Pro Bowl replacement is...

David Garrard

Schaub starts, VY is #2 and Garrard is #3.

Another nail in the coffin of the Pro Bowl.

It was actually more competitive and taken more seriously when it was a jolly to Hawaii the week after the Superbowl than it is now.

If it carries on at this draft they'll be getting undrafted free agents in off the street to play in it.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:37 pm  

Hollywood Harrigan wrote:

The Lions wont take Suh. The D line is the least of thier worries

We have never been close to replacing Warren Sapp though and he made us tick. I would be great to have a Sapp Mk.2

Lions would go Suh IMO.

They have so many problems but don't see LT as one, even though protecting Stafford should be item #1. The passed on Oher last year with the second pick and they have always said Backus is their guy. They won't take a QB, no RB is rated that high, Millen is gone so no WR. Others like CB or MLB aren't worth that high pick. The only reasonable position is DT with Suh or McCoy. I think the Bucs end up with McCoy with Suh to the Lions.

Suh could be Sapp Mk II so for that reason i hope you get him. I don't want him in our division.

HH any of your O-Line going to be FA's? I heard we could be going after a Bucs lineman to sure up our RT position.

Re: NFL Chat 3 : Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:38 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Another nail in the coffin of the Pro Bowl.

It was actually more competitive and taken more seriously when it was a jolly to Hawaii the week after the Superbowl than it is now.

If it carries on at this draft they'll be getting undrafted free agents in off the street to play in it.

Agreed, i can appreciate why they have tried it and would want it before, but it is just aa poor decision.