[TimperleySaint]

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:51 pm  

If Laudrup has anything about him, he should stick around with Swansea for a few seasons and turn them into European contenders and prove himself as a top manager, before being lured away by the temptation of the bigger European clubs and their cash.

Why would Madrid even want him right now, surely not based on the back of 1 League Cup win in England??

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:03 pm  

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02 ... f=uk-sport

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02 ... f=uk-sport

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:07 pm  

McClennan wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/25/everton-stagnant-moyes_n_2757219.html?1361786005&utm_hp_ref=uk-sport

I'd go along with most of that.....Like I said before, a fresh start for both Everton and Moyes would be a good thing.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:14 am  

Gareth Bale take a bow son.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:03 am  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

I'd go along with most of that.....Like I said before, a fresh start for both Everton and Moyes would be a good thing.

I'm 50-50 on it all. I hate Moyes negativity which has cost us so many points over the years but don't forget where we were before he came. 4th from bottom was seen as an achievement. Since he came we have finished 4th, 5th (twice), 6th, 7th (3 times), 8th, 11th and 17th. Before Moyes it was 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th.

People say he hasn't won a trophy but look at Birmingham, Blackburn, Middlesbrough, Leicester, Portsmouth have all won trophies since Everton have but have been relegated.

I can't see who is going to come in and take Everton to the 'next level' with so little money to spend. I also fear a Baines, Jagielka, Fellaini exodus should Moyes leave.

[John_D]

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:54 am  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

I'd go along with most of that.....Like I said before, a fresh start for both Everton and Moyes would be a good thing.

Well Steve McClaren is available now. And it'd only be fair to hire him seeing as Everton's medical staff set in motion a series of events that ended up with him quitting FC Twente.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:01 pm  

Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:

I'm 50-50 on it all. I hate Moyes negativity which has cost us so many points over the years but don't forget where we were before he came. 4th from bottom was seen as an achievement. Since he came we have finished 4th, 5th (twice), 6th, 7th (3 times), 8th, 11th and 17th. Before Moyes it was 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th.

People say he hasn't won a trophy but look at Birmingham, Blackburn, Middlesbrough, Leicester, Portsmouth have all won trophies since Everton have but have been relegated.

I can't see who is going to come in and take Everton to the 'next level' with so little money to spend. I also fear a Baines, Jagielka, Fellaini exodus should Moyes leave.

That's a fair point.

I remember saying to some Evertonian mates/colleagues a couple of years ago that I thought Moyes needed to move on as he'd taken Everton as far as he could and it was becoming stale, but you do have to wonder who could do better given the circumstances. Everton are a club crying out for investment - a good squad of players who are certainly capable of a decent European campaign assuming they qualify this season, a strong fanbase and the potential for the Club to really take a step upwards.

I get the feeling Moyes will sign a new contract if he has European football to coach next season.

Regardless who's manager, I just can't see Everton making a sustained effort above the level they're currently at without investment.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:01 pm  

If Everton are to stay the way they are, they probably aren't going to improve on Moyes. They will probably end up going the way of Aston Villa like when MON left (I am far from a MON lover but they've struggled since), i.e. decline quite rapidly into a struggling side.

If Everton can get investment or suddenly something dramatic happens where it isn't a top 4 but a top 6 or a top 8, then they could maybe entertain the thought of pushing on beyond Moyes's limit, but for now, Moyes has them at their ceiling and they can't get any better, IMO.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:05 pm  

The financial rewards of Champions League football just make the gap between those who dine at Europe's top table and the rest of their domestic competitors even bigger.

Were it not for Arsenal's refusal to break the bank on players or wages, you would be looking at the same top four in England year in, year out. It will take one of United, City, Arsenal and Chelsea to implode before anyone else can break into the cartel and start building up the financial clout to compete.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:45 pm  

Nola wrote:

Gareth Bale take a bow son.

At least he appears to have stopped diving now.