Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:10 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Suarez is running away with the Player of the Year award at the moment - He is single handedly steering Liverpool away from having a mediocre season and actually keeping them in contention for a top 6 finish, which should be nigh on impossible when you see the players that Suarez has to work with.

However, Liverpool really don't help themselves when you read Jamie Carragher coming out with stuff that suggests they are a credible top 4 finisher....I'm not saying it is impossible, but at this point in time, Carragher would be better off just letting their performances do the talking, instead of building up the hopes of the often, overly optimistic kopites, which usually just leads to disappointment and the usual harking back to the good old days.

Rodgers is doing an okay job at the moment and his biggest enemy is expectation, so Carragher building up that expectation is not ideal.

Not for me, Cazorla is my player of the season so far.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:33 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

Not for me, Cazorla is my player of the season so far.

Another player driving his side to great heights. How Arsenal can even be within touching distance of powerful clubs like West Brom and Everton is amazing.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:44 pm  

Kenny Morgans, one of the munich survivors has died http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYsaU4h1z6E I know it was a different era, and relatively close to the end of war when people just got on with it, but looking back its ridiculous how people like him and Harry Gregg played within days of the crash.

Kenny Morgans, one of the munich survivors has died http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYsaU4h1z6E I know it was a different era, and relatively close to the end of war when people just got on with it, but looking back its ridiculous how people like him and Harry Gregg played within days of the crash.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:39 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

All he has said is that it's up for grabs still, which it is. As for Suarez, absolutley unreal, best player in the PL at the minute. Aside from Spurs away a week on Wednesday, we have a good run of fixtures from now till Janurary, every game is winnable, hopefully we can kick on and go on a good run, having said that we're still unbeaten in the last seven PL games, which can only fill us with confidence.

It is up for grabs, and its not impossible that Liverpool could seriously challenge for it, but I don't think its helpful to Brendan Rodgers or Liverpool to have Carragher whipping the fans into an over expectant frenzy.

A couple of months of understated improvement and keeping a lid on things would be a better idea than building the locals up, only for another false dawn come Christmas......Liverpool have had many false dawns over the years and its one of the main reasons for their managers being put under unrealistic pressure and finding the job such a difficult and almost impossible one.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:08 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

It is up for grabs, and its not impossible that Liverpool could seriously challenge for it, but I don't think its helpful to Brendan Rodgers or Liverpool to have Carragher whipping the fans into an over expectant frenzy.

A couple of months of understated improvement and keeping a lid on things would be a better idea than building the locals up, only for another false dawn come Christmas......Liverpool have had many false dawns over the years and its one of the main reasons for their managers being put under unrealistic pressure and finding the job such a difficult and almost impossible one.

Fair enough. I'd agree with that.

Lucas is rumoured to be playing for us on Thursday in the Europa League after 12 weeks out.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:34 pm  

Carragher hasn't got much time left. In the time he has, he wants his team to get as high as they possibly can.

I do think that most at Liverpool are downplaying their chances so that even when they do worse than they did last year, they are still going to claim it as a good achievement from Rodgers.

Personally I think it's better that everyone aims high and pushes themselves to achieve as much as possible. If Rodgers can't cope with that pressure then he should never have taken that job.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:08 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Lucas is rumoured to be playing for us on Thursday in the Europa League after 12 weeks out.

big boost that, decent player.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:41 am  

I always think that player of the year talk tends to overlook the 'unfashionable' players. Not saying that Suarez and Cazorla aren't 2 of the lead contenders, but if you're looking for the relative influence of players on their team there should also be mentions for Long, Nolan, Michu, and Berbatov, and Fellaini is possibly the front runner at this moment in time.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:08 pm  

Sat through 45 minutes of West Ham vs. Stoke and felt like topping myself. Stuck MasterChef on after that.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:07 am  

I think Robin van persie would be up there for player of the season as well, done it in CL as well and in my opinion is a better player than Suarez, although Suarez isn't far behind, the thing that seperates them is that RVP doesn't need as many chances to score.