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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:41 am  
For me Nited have to go at City with pace as it's the one thing that I don't think City are over blessed with, as we did in the 2nd half of the charity shield. If we try and make it a dour midfield stodge-fest then they will lap it up and catch us on the break.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:51 am  
Some nice comments from Raphael Honigstein on the poor technique of Joe Hart. Such an overrated player, like Given.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:28 pm  
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:23 pm  
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Has King Kenny still got a newspaper column in the same paper that Kelvin Mackenzie now works for? Or did he do the honourable thing when they employed Mr Mackenzie?



Wow. If you're going to try point scoring over Hillsborough, I'd suggest starting somewhere other than Dalglish to be honest.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:54 pm  
Roddy B wrote:
Some nice comments from Raphael Honigstein on the poor technique of Joe Hart. Such an overrated player, like Given.


In your opinion, obviously.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:07 pm  
Roddy B wrote:
Some nice comments from Raphael Honigstein on the poor technique of Joe Hart. Such an overrated player, like Given.


I'm not sure who actually overrates Hart. Certainly the mass of City supporters regard him as a work in progress, talented but with some obvious flaws such as his distribution and tendency to parry shots into danger areas. Albeit flaws that are capable of being eradicated. Is that overrating him?
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:31 pm  
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I'm not sure who actually overrates Hart. Certainly the mass of City supporters regard him as a work in progress, talented but with some obvious flaws such as his distribution and tendency to parry shots into danger areas. Albeit flaws that are capable of being eradicated. Is that overrating him?


The media overrate him, I've a couple of mates that are City fans who claim him the league's best and he's magically made it into a PFA team of the year in the past, which shows something's not right if he's generally viewed as a WIP.

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In your opinion, obviously.


So obvious, you had to confirm it? :wink:

Of course it's my opinion, but he is, as Raphael put it, 'typically English'.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:53 pm  
In my club at end of work today the following southerners had the following opinions on Sunday's game.

Chelsea 4 for City 2 for utd.
Hoops ( QPR) 4 for city 3 for utd
Bees ( Brentford) 6 city 1 for utd.
Afc Wimbledon 1 for city
Fulham 8 for City 2 for utd.
Non league 2 for utd.
Non southern/Capital team support 12 City 3 for utd.
IMO have City started to turn people around or is it just anti utd support as usual?
Think game will be belter.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:04 pm  
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So obvious, you had to confirm it? :wink:

Of course it's my opinion, but he is, as Raphael put it, 'typically English'.


:lol: I did, just so we're all certain.

I think Cibaman's post was a good one. I would say Hart is a good goalkeeper with a bright future ahead of him, he's by no means a complete goalkeeper and has his flaws but he's very good and probably going to improve a lot. He's only young and has a lot of time to improve.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:37 am  
Roddy B wrote:
The media overrate him, I've a couple of mates that are City fans who claim him the league's best and he's magically made it into a PFA team of the year in the past, which shows something's not right if he's generally viewed as a WIP.

So obvious, you had to confirm it? :wink:

Of course it's my opinion, but he is, as Raphael put it, 'typically English'.


Considering the general tendency of the media to treat any half decent young player as the saviour of english football, I would say that their reporting of Hart has been fairly balanced. He got a fair bit of hype by virtue of not playing in the World Cup, but that was par for the course bearing in mind the backlash against Green and England generally.

I think you could find fans from every club who will claim that their goalkeeper/ striker / tea lady is the best in the league. I remember a few City fans saying that about Kasper Schmeichal after he'd played twice. I wouldnt say they are representative. In fact there's currently a thread running on Bluemoon about Hart, about 5% of the contributors reckon he's the best in the league and the other 95% reckon he's good but needs to improve.

I think he got the PFA nod when he played for Birmingham. Obviously I didnt see as much of him that year but he seemed to have a good season.
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