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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:33 am  
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He was onside.


Did they show much of the penalty appeal over there? Think it was Koscielny on Pedro. Looked clear cut at a first glance to me, but, again, ITV wouldn't show it.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:40 am  
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He was onside.


Was the last touch before the finish not one of those moments where it's offside because they were ahead of all the Arsenal players and passed it forwards?
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:40 am  
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Did they show much of the penalty appeal over there? Think it was Koscielny on Pedro. Looked clear cut at a first glance to me, but, again, ITV wouldn't show it.

They did indeed. Not too sure it was a penalty myself, but then again I had already downed six Moritz.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:41 am  
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Was the last touch before the finish not one of those moments where it's offside because they were ahead of all the Arsenal players and passed it forwards?

Did the last pass not hit an Arsenal defender's hand?
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:05 am  
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Did the last pass not hit an Arsenal defender's hand?


I dunno, I only saw it once. If so it wouldn't have mattered as the pass would have come first?
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:10 am  
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I dunno, I only saw it once. If so it wouldn't have mattered as the pass would have come first?


The pass that hit the defender's hand, there was no offside. The offside flag was raised against Messi, who scored on the follow up after that pass. Messi wasn't offside.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:37 am  
Messi was behind the ball anyway so it should have been impossible for him to be flagged offside. I think the AR had been influenced by the constant whingeing all match of the Arsenal players and fans about not giving offside (quite rightly as they kept getting caught by well timed Barca runs) so gave them one which has ended up keeping them in the tie.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:12 pm  
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You thought they were sh*t? Come on, be honest, they were the better side over the 90 minutes. They created a fair amount, they controlled play and they should have put the game to bed well before van Persie slammed home. I'm all for criticism and not believing hype, but I think you're getting ahead of yourself. Arsenal deserved to win because they scored two fair goals, but Barca were the better side.


You're right, maybe sh*t is the wrong word, but its fair to say that while in possession, Barca bored me to within an inch of my life, much like Spain did in the World Cup last year. Perhaps they do justify some hype, perhaps not. The media's lengths of bigging them up is hilarious. Tyldsley couldn't even mention Arsenal's winner without rimming Barca.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:34 pm  
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You're right, maybe sh*t is the wrong word, but its fair to say that while in possession, Barca bored me to within an inch of my life, much like Spain did in the World Cup last year. Perhaps they do justify some hype, perhaps not. The media's lengths of bigging them up is hilarious. Tyldsley couldn't even mention Arsenal's winner without rimming Barca.


Tyldsley was rimming Arsenal all night. There was a point where Arsenal were getting cuntstuffed possession-wise, Arsenal got the ball from a goal kick and one of their centre halves passed it out to the midfielder, Tyldsley, in the most desperate of tones, said "Arsenal are still trying to pass it about, even in their own half" as though they were doing something we should be proud of.

You may have found Barca's possession game a little boring, but it's their way of defence. There may be occasions where a pass could be on, or they have a bit of space to attack in, but they play with their brain far more than any other British side. That may be 'boring', but I feel you just have to truly appreciate the game to realize that, although it may not be visually beautiful, technically and tactically it is brilliant.

Anyway, Arsenal obviously had the commentary bias as they were the English club. Barca got many compliments, but you can't say they don't deserve them.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:56 pm  
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Tyldsley was rimming Arsenal all night. There was a point where Arsenal were getting cuntstuffed possession-wise, Arsenal got the ball from a goal kick and one of their centre halves passed it out to the midfielder, Tyldsley, in the most desperate of tones, said "Arsenal are still trying to pass it about, even in their own half" as though they were doing something we should be proud of.

You may have found Barca's possession game a little boring, but it's their way of defence. There may be occasions where a pass could be on, or they have a bit of space to attack in, but they play with their brain far more than any other British side. That may be 'boring', but I feel you just have to truly appreciate the game to realize that, although it may not be visually beautiful, technically and tactically it is brilliant.

Anyway, Arsenal obviously had the commentary bias as they were the English club. Barca got many compliments, but you can't say they don't deserve them.


I'm certainly not denying that they're technically gifted, and you're right about them being tactically brilliant, but i'm entitled to think that it's boring without my knowledge of football being questioned :wink:
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