Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:55 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

It's like they took Heskey and made him worse!

No, he's not that bad, Altidore can at least avoid falling over a tall blade of grass.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:29 pm  

Take a boooooo son

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:02 pm  

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:08 pm  

Marcel Desailly the proud Ghanian. So proud he played 116 times for..... France.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:08 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

Marcel Desailly the proud Ghanian. So proud he played 116 times for..... France.

I have just been saying the same

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:33 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

As I've said previously it's an admirable effort to take the World Cup to every continent on the planet but I simply don't think Africa was ready for this. It looks likely that some of these stadia will stand empty after the tournament. The travel infrastructure isn't good enough. The locals can't afford the tickets and as such a lot of the matches have had thousands of empty seats.

The travel infrastructure in South Africa isnt that bad. Its a bloody big country and I'd expect there would be problems moving fans from city to city in say Russia, Australia or any other big country apart from the US.

I agree that there has been a wasted investment in stadia, but that's largely down to the unrealistic demands placed on SA by FIFA. The original intention in Cape Town was to upgrade the existing 23,000 football stadium in the largest township to 45,000 seats, whilst also taking the opportunity to upgrade the township road infrastructure. However Blatter insisted on a flagship stadium close to the Waterfront and with a better view of Table Mountain. The cheapest option would have been to simply use the existing 50,000 seater international standard rugby union stadium at Newlands.

Overall I think the tournament has so far justified the decision to take the World Cup to Africa.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:51 pm  

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:58 pm  

Stand-Offish wrote:

No they won't.... just as they aren't other sports. In particular rugby league and cricket...oh and tennis...oh and just about anything else progressive that is not stuck in the 'you just have to put up with it' camp. Come up to date FFS...Where there's a will there's a way. Mankind is all about improvement and technology can help in sport as elsewhere..
The VR evidence would have strict limitations on what was being looked for....mainly cheating in the action of goalscoring and penalties...the rest would be up to the ref ALONE at the time, but reviewable after the event for unfair punishments or blatent acts of cheating or thuggery.
What is hard about that?
And besides which.... the right way is to try it and review it...that's the scientific way.

The only way it could be introduced is to follow the NFL idea and have the coaches call when they want it to be used. Give them a couple of chances each half, if they are proved correct they still keep their quota, if they've used it frivolously they lose one. That way contentious decisions could be challenged, but the coaches could pick on every decision that went against them.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:08 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

The only way it could be introduced is to follow the NFL idea and have the coaches call when they want it to be used. Give them a couple of chances each half, if they are proved correct they still keep their quota, if they've used it frivolously they lose one. That way contentious decisions could be challenged, but the coaches could pick on every decision that went against them.

Where do you get the 'the only way it can be introduced' bit from?
Coaches should have NO say in it.

I can't see the complexity that some folk envisage.
What I am advocating is that things carry on exactly as at present apart from that refs get help from a 5th official (video ref) on key issues.
These issues will be ONLY when goals are scored and penalties are awarded....probably only on average two,three or four times in an entire game. That's the entirety of it.

Every other situation is governed by the ref and is NOT open to being challenged....by anyone...just as now.

That's what I would like.
That's do-able in my book.

And as for 'what about all other contentious issues' and the assertion of 'creepage'? ......all other issues would be excluded...that's the ref's job.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:38 pm  

Stand-Offish wrote:

Where do you get the 'the only way it can be introduced' bit from?
Coaches should have NO say in it.
What I am advocating is that things carry on exactly as at present apart from that refs get help from a 5th official (video ref) on key issues.
These issues will be ONLY when goals are scored and penalties are awarded....probably only on average two,three or four times in an entire game. That's the entirety of it.
Every other situation is governed by the ref and is NOT open to being challenged....by anyone...just as now.
That's what I would like.
That's do-able in my book.
And as for 'what about all other contentious issues' and the assertion of 'creepage'? ......all other issues would be excluded...that's the ref's job.

So the ref can wrongly send a player off, he can wrongly book someone when they should be off, he can wrongly rule that a striker fouled a defender when creating a scoring chance, but when he thinks that the goal he's just seen is fine, he's got to accept the judgement of the VR?