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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:28 pm  
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I said last summer that Silva would be the league's best player. I love being right. What I hate is I think every year that I've been on here I pleaded with Liverpool to sign him, yet we ended up with Benayoun! Loved him since I first saw him playing for Celta, such a shame he's playing for City.

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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:47 pm  
What a shame that football clubs don't know their rightful place.

For me, as the first champions, Preston North End are the only club with any right to have that title and be successful - any other club's achievements are tainted by whatever methods they used to usurp them and are therefore meaningless.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:51 pm  
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I went today. Sat in the United corporate end as we won tickets- god I feel for United fans, so many of my own friends who have had to give up their season tickets due to the prices, and then morons with no idea about football can afford it. Other than a bloke throwing his programme at my dad's head because he didn't cheer when United score, and the clueless idiots we were sat next demanding that United clear the ball when it wasn't even in their half, a good day out.

But certainly a lesson that United don't look as invincible as the more unrealistic/clueless United fans would have you believe. A great deal of magnanimity from the United fans I know.

I think most Utd fans have been expecting this. Scholes retiring, Giggs' influence further waning, allied to a lack of investment in central midfield (Sneijder, in my humble was a must) gave an element of inevitability, that in the bigger games it would be midfield where the battle would be won/lost. Walloping Arsenal deflected the situation that was looming, but the result against Basel put the reality back into perspective.

There is a lot of hope for Cleverley and Pogba in the future, but without an experienced creative/controlling player, it will be difficult to be as dominant as in the recent past.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:04 pm  
Asim wrote:
What a shame that football clubs don't know their rightful place.

For me, as the first champions, Preston North End are the only club with any right to have that title and be successful - any other club's achievements are tainted by whatever methods they used to usurp them and are therefore meaningless.


lol. You should stand for Mayor Of London my good man. You'd easily triumph over the Aryan Beatle.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:07 pm  
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What a shame that football clubs don't know their rightful place.

For me, as the first champions, Preston North End are the only club with any right to have that title and be successful - any other club's achievements are tainted by whatever methods they used to usurp them and are therefore meaningless.


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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:39 pm  
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What a shame that football clubs don't know their rightful place.

For me, as the first champions, Preston North End are the only club with any right to have that title and be successful - any other club's achievements are tainted by whatever methods they used to usurp them and are therefore meaningless.


Regardless of what people say, stopping sides like United and City has to be something to be strongly considered. What should be stopped is clubs completely dominating in general, but I don't believe the way to stop it is pot luck billionaires curing boredom.

We should be looking at ways to make things more even, not furthering the gap and raising the bar even higher. It doesn't matter who I support, I've said it many times on here; football needs to be looking at levelling the playing field.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:41 pm  
By the way, nice goal for Ishant Sharma for Fulham. Drenthe looking good - always had the ability.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:46 pm  
If any sport is serious about competition then a salary cap is the only true way forward. I don't see how it could be anything else otherwise all you'd have would be a watered down version of what is currently in operation. You either go for it or you don't bother because a watered down version will still do nothing due to the revenues generated by teams which make it into the Champions League year after year i.e. the rich remain the rich except for the odd occasion when one of them falls out and is replaced by a team for however long.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:51 pm  
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By the way, nice goal for Ishant Sharma for Fulham. Drenthe looking good - always had the ability.


Brilliant goal by Drenthe and he's improving game by game, the main thing is hit match fitness is getting back. He shown he has the ability and the brain since he signed just not the fitness but it's coming back.

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If any sport is serious about competition then a salary cap is the only true way forward. I don't see how it could be anything else otherwise all you'd have would be a watered down version of what is currently in operation. You either go for it or you don't bother because a watered down version will still do nothing due to the revenues generated by teams which make it into the Champions League year after year i.e. the rich remain the rich except for the odd occasion when one of them falls out and is replaced by a team for however long.


Do you really think a salary cap could be put into place now? It's been difficult enough trying to get Blatter to even consider the idea of goal line technology. I still love football for what it is and still enjoy folllowing my club home and away but the days of us getting anywhere near a level playing field is way off I think.
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Re: The Football Chat Thread : Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:55 pm  
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If any sport is serious about competition then a salary cap is the only true way forward. I don't see how it could be anything else otherwise all you'd have would be a watered down version of what is currently in operation. You either go for it or you don't bother because a watered down version will still do nothing due to the revenues generated by teams which make it into the Champions League year after year i.e. the rich remain the rich except for the odd occasion when one of them falls out and is replaced by a team for however long.


A salary cap should also coincide with a transfer cap IMO. Only problem is, players will never agree to a salary cap because they'll argue "if I'm a top player and I contribute to my club making X amount of revenue, I deserve Y amount every year". Unfortunately, I believe the game is too late to change, but the only people who can make it happen are the owners and the authorities. It's a pipe dream IMO, but seeing a side like City does nothing for any other club. Yes, it's orgasmic seeing United cunted like they were today, but there is a bigger picture and many people don't take that into consideration when looking at the morals in football.
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